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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    What annoying little obstacles? They made everything "YOU CAN GO THROUGH THIS DURP" also walking around for 1 second is sooo much work.
    There are more obstacles in life, I pretty much NEVER jump over em 99% of the time the 1% is the time I just wanna see if I can jump over it. Fact is, there is no need for jump
    maybe you don't need jump, but the rest of us would like it. It harms nothing and can only be helpful.

    The only reason anyone EVER uses to attack it is "it's not "final fantasy" " or "People will jump around like idiots all the time."
    To the former I say "Final Fantasy" is whatever the makers want it to be, and to the latter, I repeat, "A few idiots that act immature is not a reason not to implement a useful function.

    Also: The world we have now was not built with jumping in consideration. The new world will be. When that time comes, you WILL have reasons to use it.

    As long as it's not grossly unrealistic (e.g. jumping 4 times your height like Mario), jumping is a harmless function that can be useful when the world is designed with the understanding that the function exists. If someone wants to act like a retard with it, just blacklist them, ignore them, and move on. They'll stop as soon as they see that nobody wants to associate with them.

    FINALLY, even in the current world there are still a lot of small ledges you can't simply walk off, rocks that are annoying and could be vaulted over if you could jump (A second saved is a second saved, I don't care if you think it's too small a benefit), and in particular, if you could jump, there are certain parts of places like Limsa Lominsa where you could get around much faster.
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    First off, they can make an interesting world without needing of jumping >.> look at FFXI
    -People will jump around, it will bug the frick out of me and most people I know.
    -This isn't a platformer, its an mmorpg, ya know, a simulator, kinda like for real lifeish
    -Again, the world we live on RIGHT NOW, ya know earth, is suuuuper beautiful, you never have to jump.
    -Again, not a big deal, takes 1 second to go around.

    Swimming though, ya, I want that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    maybe you don't need jump, but the rest of us would like it.
    Speak for yourself pal. You mean there are a few of you, this "rest of us" crap is a heck of a stretch'
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    I don't know that jump would enhance my enjoyment of the game in any way. FF games have never been very "jumpy". However if it becomes a platformer I will be very disappointed.

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    I don't see why they can't jump over simple obstacles. Nothing outlandishly high like the races can... but just for basic obstacles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    First off, they can make an interesting world without needing of jumping >.> look at FFXI
    -People will jump around, it will bug the frick out of me and most people I know.
    -This isn't a platformer, its an mmorpg, ya know, a simulator, kinda like for real lifeish
    -Again, the world we live on RIGHT NOW, ya know earth, is suuuuper beautiful, you never have to jump.
    -Again, not a big deal, takes 1 second to go around.

    Swimming though, ya, I want that.
    If people jumping around aggravates you that much, then you should really take some time off of a video game. Why can't an MMO become a little bit of platforming too? Archers jumping to a higher spot to stay out of AoE range, delving through dungeons that require more than just tank and spank..

    I mean you can do many things with jump, NOT just focus on people jumping in town.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    I don't see why they can't jump over simple obstacles. Nothing outlandishly high like the races can... but just for basic obstacles.
    Because the entire in game worlds collusion detection was based on an inability to jump. Thus to impliment it, they will have to spent a ton of man hours readjusting the world to remove all avaliable exploits players can use with jump. I prefere they use that time for real content, more classes, more jobs, and more anything but that in general.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    If people jumping around aggravates you that much, then you should really take some time off of a video game. Why can't an MMO become a little bit of platforming too? Archers jumping to a higher spot to stay out of AoE range, delving through dungeons that require more than just tank and spank..

    I mean you can do many things with jump, NOT just focus on people jumping in town.
    -Don't say something that you have no idea, you don't know me ^.^
    -A higher spot? Now we are going to get 50feet jumps? If its just a few feet above you, you should have to walk up it.
    - MMOs I feel, should be a simulator, not maple story. Just play that if you want platforming you get TONS of it.
    - You will still be tank and spank no matter what..........
    -No, no you can't, not in an "turn" base mmo, in an action mmo, yes maybe, but this is not an action mmo.

    Only way I will support jump, if its "Press x" when you get to a stupid ledge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laraul View Post
    Jumping is a great way to get your character stuck in some place it shouldn't...
    Only if the game is designed for it -- Most MMOs don't even allow you to bypass obstacles just because you can jump.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    to be able to move in the third dimension?
    The ability to change your direction from front/back to left and right is already 3-dimensional movement, you don't need to jump in order to have 3D movement, utilizing a joystick or mouse for movement alone is 3-dimensional movement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    First off, they can make an interesting world without needing of jumping >.> look at FFXI
    -People will jump around, it will bug the frick out of me and most people I know.
    -This isn't a platformer, its an mmorpg, ya know, a simulator, kinda like for real lifeish
    -Again, the world we live on RIGHT NOW, ya know earth, is suuuuper beautiful, you never have to jump.
    -Again, not a big deal, takes 1 second to go around.
    Skyrim.


    'nuff said.
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    You could cast while moving, but then you took an arrow to the knee, and must stand still.

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