Can we please ban advertisements for selling clears from PF?

[Bonbori]

I don't know much about the run selling business (except that it's RMT plain and simple, it should be bannable on sight, there is no "innocent until proven guilty" when the guilt is self-evident) however one thing I think should be 100% reportable and punishable is people using inappropriate categories for advertising. Listing their RMT nonsense as "Expert Roulette" to push it to the top of the list is annoying. I wish those people would either be forced to use "None" or a dedicated "Advertisement" category that goes to the rock bottom of the list.

It wouldn't solve the problem but, if enforced, would make me see it less, which would be the second best thing.

[Kinetic-duet]

You can change the order they're displayed, from ascending to descending (or vice versa). This is what I have done and now I can completely avoid the "Roulettes" until they get fixed.

[RokkuEkkusu]

I have a couple party finder QOL suggestions from another topic if you haven't read them:

1. Allow players to right-click on a party finder name and click "Add to Blacklist" if the PF description is not to the players' liking.

2. The parties of the players on the blacklist should go on the back end of the party list where the locked duties are.

[Lunavi]

I was under the impression it's always been banned, just badly enforced.

One might actually think so, but oddly enough it isn't. In ToS there is a rule against spamming, but that one does only refer to chat and log mail, and does not include PF. So for this to be activity against ToS it has to be proven that it is an activity related to ToS to do anything at all with the current rules.

"・Spamming
This means using chat (including Quick Chat and Emote) to obstruct another person's conversation, or obstruct the use of mog letters, etc., for example, by sending an excessive number of unnecessary items in mog letters, etc. Even if obstruction was not the objective of the behaviour, it may be deemed a violation if another player is actually obstructed by the behaviour."

There is, oddly enough, not a single rule about PF when it comes to this, which is almost 100% why it is the preferred channel to promote your services.

[Greywolfamakir]

I've noticed that every single one of these things says "add on discord for info", which is basically code for "pay us real money".

it doesn't mean anything...

[SerLuke]

it doesn't mean anything...

It means exactly that, one person in this thread has been contacting them from the Discords on the PF listings and they give price in USD =(

[Lunavi]

It means exactly that, one person in this thread has been contacting them from the Discords on the PF listings and they give price in USD =(

While it is heavily implied (why else would you refuse to speak about details in game?), it is impossible to prove that this is what it means until you visit that discord, at which point SE can’t prove if you are just faking a chatlog or not.

[SerLuke]

While it is heavily implied (why else would you refuse to speak about details in game?), it is impossible to prove that this is what it means until you visit that discord, at which point SE can’t prove if you are just faking a chatlog or not.

True I realize SE can’t prove it, I just meant as players we know what it means

[Bonbori]

While it is heavily implied (why else would you refuse to speak about details in game?), it is impossible to prove that this is what it means until you visit that discord, at which point SE can’t prove if you are just faking a chatlog or not.

But... why do they have to prove it? They don't have to build a court case to ban RMT perpetrators who are trying to circumvent the rules. It's SE's own privately owned platform so there should be nothing stopping a GM from infiltrating the discord, being given the price and being like. "Surprise! You're all banned!"

Actually, why don't they just do it arbitrarily as soon as they see the PF entry? Any action against RMT is better than inaction.

[Noitems]

I think it's honestly just silly people would shell that much money for any of these clears.

XIV is a game where everything becomes easier overtime due to IL increasing, more levels being adding, potency increasing, more utility being offered, and honestly just the idea that we run through the SAME content so often you'll have plenty of time to shill into it to practice to breakup the norm.

The 1st tier savage gear is going to be outdated as soon as 5.2 in Jan/Feb and the only thing bringing people back would really be the completionist sake or just the mount. Past that everything else you can grab overtime as weapon augmentation tokens become available outside Savage.