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  1. #21
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    Marc-Vigar's Avatar
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    Marc Vigar
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    Omega
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    Pugilist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by RowanLauron View Post
    You don't know what's going on with that person. It could be a troll or it could be someone who's just not very good at the game but wants to see the content.

    It's that mindset that poisons a MMO community. It's NORMAL content. It's not meant to be serious like Savage.
    Content is content and time is time, if you are drunk/bad/high or whatever that doesn't give you any right to mess up my gaming experience.

    YOU are the source of the problem so it's your responsability to inform the party about it, and is ours to decide if we take messures or not. That said, I have a lot of patience with bad players and I don't mind carrying them, but I show no mercy for drunkards and potheads, specially because they're also arrogant and careless about it.
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  2. #22
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    Rathael's Avatar
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    Arlan Knighthold
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    Lich
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Seraph522 View Post
    If there are 3-4 mobs, rotation is Freeze -> (Enochian if it isn't already up) Thunder IV -> Fire III -> Flare -> Flare -> back to Freeze. If Manafont is up, use that after the second Flare to squeeze another Flare in. If there are 5+ mobs, skip Fire III and go straight to Flare after Thunder IV. When Polyglot is up, throw out Foul. Use Triplecast and Swiftcast before your Flares for movement/speed. Drop Leylines in there as well if it's up.

    That all being said, what AoE rotation were you doing? I'd expect the tank to at least say something about what your rotation should look like before kicking you, so either your tank was a jerk or you were doing your single-target rotation during trash pulls.
    This, pretty much.

    The basic AoE combo for BLM that has served me just fine at the moment is Freeze > Thunder IV > Fire III > Flare > Flare > Freeze & Sharpcast (if available) > Repeat from Thunder IV

    The way you open up the rotation is Sharpcast > Freeze > Enochian > Thunder IV > Fire III > (as above)

    If you have manafont up, you can use triple cast for a triple flare by doing: Fire III & Triple Cast > Flare > Flare & Manafont > Flare > Freeze

    Freeze now gives Ice III and one umbral heart and can be cast from 0mp after the second flare. You use that one heart in order to be able to do 2 flares per fire rotation. Use fouls in ice phase. Use leylines in decently long fights etc.
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  3. #23
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    Mavrias's Avatar
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    Jyn Willowsong
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RowanLauron View Post
    You don't know what's going on with that person. It could be a troll or it could be someone who's just not very good at the game but wants to see the content.

    It's that mindset that poisons a MMO community. It's NORMAL content. It's not meant to be serious like Savage.
    You shouldnt be single targeting in trash pulls of 3 or more. Like sure i agree as long as someone's seriously putting in effort to learn the first option shouldnt be to kick (in a dungeon situation) but using the single target rotation on trash signals to me that you havent even looked at tooltips.
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  4. #24
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    Izyla's Avatar
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    Izyla Qalli
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    Cerberus
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    You shouldnt be single targeting in trash pulls of 3 or more. Like sure i agree as long as someone's seriously putting in effort to learn the first option shouldnt be to kick (in a dungeon situation) but using the single target rotation on trash signals to me that you havent even looked at tooltips.
    Agreed. I also die a little inside everytime I see a blm transpose and start the fire IV spam with only 1 astral fire stack, or some blms that instead just spam fire III on bosses.

    Don't even get me started on 'ice mages' D:
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  5. #25
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    Jukebox12's Avatar
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    Juke Fm
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    Behemoth
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    Dark Knight Lv 73
    Quote Originally Posted by Izyla View Post
    Agreed. I also die a little inside everytime I see a blm transpose and start the fire IV spam with only 1 astral fire stack, or some blms that instead just spam fire III on bosses.

    Don't even get me started on 'ice mages' D:
    Ice mages are good
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  6. #26
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    Strygr Chocobocalypse
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    Leviathan
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    Samurai Lv 74
    Does a normal dungeon taking 3 minutes longer than usual "ruin" your gaming experience? Isn't part of the MMO experience helping newer people learn how to play better?
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  7. #27
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    Zerathor's Avatar
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    Jack Cinder
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    Excalibur
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by osutin View Post
    Does a normal dungeon taking 3 minutes longer than usual "ruin" your gaming experience? Isn't part of the MMO experience helping newer people learn how to play better?
    The 3 minutes is usually more like 10. And it's supposed to be about helping new people, but anytime you want to help out somebody doing something horrifically wrong you're only met with the response "yOu DoN't pAY mY sUb, ElITiSt! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!" or something of that fashion.
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