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    Lambdafish's Avatar
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 100
    What Kaeden said is absolutely correct.

    The ingame economy supports players exchanging goods and services. Buying a clear from a player is no different than buying an item from them, or paying them to overmeld your gear. It's how the gil is obtained that is the biggest point of contention, and the RMT argument is completely separate from the "buying clears" argument.

    Whether that makes it fair or right that players should be allowed to be carried through content is a reasonable debate, but as far as terms of service goes, its perfectly valid, and will never be banned.
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    KarstenS's Avatar
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    Lilli Karani
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    Whether that makes it fair or right that players should be allowed to be carried through content is a reasonable debate, but as far as terms of service goes, its perfectly valid, and will never be banned.
    As it is long ago, when content, that gets advertised for selling, was doable by 7 man or less, its not a carry, that gets advertised.

    The point: account sharing.

    So with the T&C in mind, this service is not "perfectly valid".
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    YojimboM's Avatar
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    Jack Rose
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    Ultros
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    What Kaeden said is absolutely correct.

    The ingame economy supports players exchanging goods and services. Buying a clear from a player is no different than buying an item from them, or paying them to overmeld your gear. It's how the gil is obtained that is the biggest point of contention, and the RMT argument is completely separate from the "buying clears" argument.

    Whether that makes it fair or right that players should be allowed to be carried through content is a reasonable debate, but as far as terms of service goes, its perfectly valid, and will never be banned.
    The sellers do charge real money for clears. If you notice none of the seller PFs ever state a price or even a currency. They typically only link Discord usernames, so that discussions about the sale can take place in an area outside of the game.

    There have been a lot of links between people in PF and usernames in their PFs to even websites advertising RMT activities or services. Some of them from very reputable and respected raiding FCs even.

    Nothing will ever be done about it unless SE forbids clear selling on PF, but until then, people will continue to use it as a form of RMT directly in everyone's face.
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