No longer able to log into Steam version with my non-Steam account. Why do this SE?

[illutian]

1) Thanks SE, you did a better job of waking me up than a cup of Earl Grey. - Saw the message and thought my sub had somehow lapsed and I lost my house. xD

2) Why doesn't SE opt to do what Zenimax did for ESO when they brought it over to Steam. Which is they allowed us to link Steam and replace our 'normal login' credentials with our Steam ones.

[BahamutxD]

1) Thanks SE, you did a better job of waking me up than a cup of Earl Grey. - Saw the message and thought my sub had somehow lapsed and I lost my house. xD

2) Why doesn't SE opt to do what Zenimax did for ESO when they brought it over to Steam. Which is they allowed us to link Steam and replace our 'normal login' credentials with our Steam ones.

The issue lies here https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/s.../subscriptions

They would still need the Mogstation so there is no real need to do that. F2P/B2P games on STEAM are treated differently when it comes to charging fees from Valve.

[illutian]

The issue lies here https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/s.../subscriptions

They would still need the Mogstation so there is no real need to do that. F2P/B2P games on STEAM are treated differently when it comes to charging fees from Valve.

Explain this then: https://i.imgur.com/DIlBxCM.png

ESO allows me to sub through Steam....from within the game.

If it's a fee thing, ZeniMax, a company that's a bit sketchy on it's Cash Shop (lol $100 for a house!) seems to think it's worth it.

EDIT: I would classify FF14 as a Buy 2 Play, with a recurring subscription.

[BahamutxD]

Explain this then: https://i.imgur.com/DIlBxCM.png

ESO allows me to sub through Steam....from within the game.

If it's a fee thing, ZeniMax, a company that's a bit sketchy on it's Cash Shop (lol $100 for a house!) seems to think it's worth it.

EDIT: I would classify FF14 as a Buy 2 Play, with a recurring subscription.

There is nothing to explain, FFXIV and ESO are not comparable cases for the sole reason that one is F2P and the other B2P. STEAM treats them differently.

Theres more on that matter here https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/pricing

The only comparable case in STEAM is FFXI but that doesn't help as it is another SquareEnix tittle using pretty much the same system as FFXIV.

[illutian]

There is nothing to explain, FFXIV and ESO are not comparable cases for the sole reason that one is F2P and the other B2P. STEAM treats them differently.

Theres more on that matter here https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/pricing

The only comparable case in STEAM is FFXI but that doesn't help as it is another SquareEnix tittle using pretty much the same system as FFXIV.

EVE Online also had the game as B2P on Steam years before adopting a 'free2play' with sub option.

Point is, it can be done. Square is choosing not to.

Furthermore, they did a piss-poor job informing us. I sign in and immediately think something happened to my payment options, because the warning is a generic message. I had zero clue this was going on. No emails. No banners (the scrolling ones on the launcher).

[enthauptet]

EVE Online also had the game as B2P on Steam years before adopting a 'free2play' with sub option.

Point is, it can be done. Square is choosing not to.

Furthermore, they did a piss-poor job informing us. I sign in and immediately think something happened to my payment options, because the warning is a generic message. I had zero clue this was going on. No emails. No banners (the scrolling ones on the launcher).

Yep, SE just does not want to put in the effort to manage platforms properly. An example of how to do it right is what Bungie is doing. They are transferring platforms, migrating everyone for free, adding cross-save, introducing a free version all at the same time while moving from battle.net over to steam. Steam is not the limiting factor here even though it has its own issues, SE just does not want to.

[Evaddaragon]

The only comparable case in STEAM is FFXI but that doesn't help as it is another SquareEnix tittle using pretty much the same system as FFXIV.

But that's exactly why I don't follow.

I stopped playing FFXI (on PS2 and PC and X360) in 2009. In 2017, I felt like getting the ultimate Seekers Collection on Steam. I could reactive my old character on Cerberus from way back when! Yeah, I thought it was deleted but apparently it wasn't. LOL I played about 2 months, then reactived again back in April in order to finish all main storylines (only Seekers of Adoulin remains, I even finished Rhapsodies of Vanad'iel) and get at least PLD to master status.

And it seems that if I wanted to get the Steam version of FFXIV, I couldn't simply log with my current SE account info? I couldn't even register the Steam version? This is nuts.

[Rhomagus]

But that's exactly why I don't follow.

I stopped playing FFXI (on PS2 and PC and X360) in 2009. In 2017, I felt like getting the ultimate Seekers Collection on Steam. I could reactive my old character on Cerberus from way back when! Yeah, I thought it was deleted but apparently it wasn't. LOL I played about 2 months, then reactived again back in April in order to finish all main storylines (only Seekers of Adoulin remains, I even finished Rhapsodies of Vanad'iel) and get at least PLD to master status.

And it seems that if I wanted to get the Steam version of FFXIV, I couldn't simply log with my current SE account info? I couldn't even register the Steam version? This is nuts.

This is another inconsistency. Logging into XI through Steam? Fine. Logging into XIV with Steam? Not fine. Both are MMOs. Both are MMOs from Square. Both are MMOs that cost the same subscription price.