The difference between WoW and FF14

[SturmChurro]

They are worded as they are so SE can ban anyone for whatever they want whenever they want, all on any given GM/Mod whim. There is no appeal system either. No matter what, they are always right.

[Barraind]

14 is snowflakeville, where taking measures to actively improve your gameplay is bannable, and you're actively rewarded for not saying anything in chat.

WoW is loud, vocal, and people hold you to a significantly higher standard while making sure you know exactly what standard you're being held to in less than cordial ways.


I've never been suspended from Blizzard or Sonys forums for quoting someone, but I have here.

[SerLuke]

14 is snowflakeville, where taking measures to actively improve your gameplay is bannable, and you're actively rewarded for not saying anything in chat.

What are you talking about? How are you rewarded for not saying anything in chat?

[jameseoakes]

What are you talking about? How are you rewarded for not saying anything in chat?

These seems to be an ongoing thing of trying to push the idea that people are getting banned/suspended for on good reason. The only people I ever see using phrases like snowflake are bullies who like to be rude and unpleasant to people but then get really upset when they are called out on it.

[Barraind]

What are you talking about? How are you rewarded for not saying anything in chat?

You run 0 risk, of anything, saying nothing or next to nothing in game and handling all your communication in discord.

~4 months ago, I figured I'd see what the tangible difference was between actively communicating in roulettes, raids and open world activities and not saying more than hi, in terms of what you can accomplish.

Turns out, its pretty much 0, since I have no desire to pug savage content and statics generally use voice comms.

In a game where a not-insubstantial amount of the playerbase is gifted with thinner than normal skin about anything from emotes to tips on how to play their class ("You dont need to cast fire 2 on single target boss fights at level 70" as an example), its actively worse to speak in chat than it is to not.

[Divinemights]

Good, at least more people here knows the meaning of word of “Respect”. Less type of people that smells like they never brush teeth for
Months every time they talks in WoW

[Makeda]

Seeing some of the “why can’t I be a hate filled jerk, it’s so unfair that they will ban you for anything [hate filled] now” responses in here...

Every time I see people complain about “snowflakes” I am reminded of the same sorts in RL who make that complaint after getting caught in some racist or sexist rant, and calling others snowflakes is usually part of them complaining about nobody liking them anymore after they spread hate or anger all around the place...

If you think they will ban “anything “... buy a mirror.

[Arazehl]

People are very report heavy in this game, so most people only use guild chats (free company) and linkshell chats. If those people had anything negative to say to you, they were keeping it to those chats probably. Shout chat would probably be used more, but this game is full of tattlers tbh. You can be warned for instance just by simply swearing, it doesn't have to be towards anyone. Which is silly since we have a chat filter, but meh.

Must be doing something against the license agreement to get "tattled" on, as you so call it. I think you exaggerate just a bit on when and why people report. Remember this is FFXIV not WoW. if you want to be obnoxious and bully go back to WoW, because in this game you're made responsible for your actions if that's what your main complaint is. If you expect people to let you disrupt their game play and make it an unpleasant experience then you better think twice. Nothing wrong in that what-so-ever. Act with some maturity and you'll be just fine in FFXIV.

[Chalbee]

This thread is so bizarre. If you're honestly so afraid that anything you say will get you banned if you say it in chat, maybe re-evaluate how you communicate with others? I've been playing this game for 4 years, given plenty of advice and criticism -which I'll note was sometimes not nice because I'm human and get frustrated, but I've never received so much as a warning or even a clapback from the person I was talking to. Mostly people either take my advice or ignore it, in which case I drop it and just hope we can finish the duty.

The only way I can see getting reported is if you're making pointed criticisms about things the person can't fix at the moment (buying new gear, getting a stronger connection, rebuilding rotations from the bottom up etc. aren't things you can just do real quick in 30s in an instance) and/or getting personal, which you shouldn't really be doing in the first place.

Also "People are such snowflakes now!" = "These people have no right to get upset when I verbally abuse them!"

[Windwalker]

So finally made it to level 50 and that "raid". The one called "bard"-something-or-other. Full party.

What struck me was the massive difference between WoW and FF14.

Due to not knowing the fight and my horrendous latency (1000+ms), I died...a lot.

Not one single person flamed me, or told me to "get gud", or uninstall, or anything like that.

Actually, they just kept throwing rezzes at me.

What a HUGE difference between that experience and the experience I'd have under the same circumstances in WoW. It's actually amazing.


I just wish FF14 wasn't so quiet! I do miss the world chat WoW has. FF14 is very lonely. I don't play very much because I feel so alone in the world. I liked the world chat because, even when not participating, it made the world seem so much more alive. The chat was entertaining as much as the gameplay was.

World chat went quiet after Square implemented new rules, you can get banned if you accidently offend someone. So most people just stick to FC chats.