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    CKNovel's Avatar
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    Cassia Kaedhan
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvain View Post
    While I agree the range should be brought up, people cleared all content on week 1 with all jobs so I can't believe this is to be an actual issue.

    My static has a Nin and a BRD and we cleared E2S on week2 with no dps issue (, and had we raid 2 more days the first week it would have been a week 1 clear)

    So, yes they should be buffed, but any party not bringing a range because of that 1k difference isn't worth much.
    If your group just has every player at 40% perf that should be enough to get a clear on any boss, especially with the 460 weapon
    Personnal experience:
    Our comp is MNK/MCH/DNC/RDM.
    We have 2 rangeds, and the worst caster. We cleared E3S week 2. Any job is viable, aka you can clear content with it, it's not a dead job.

    Our DPS was far from bad, we even cleared E3S on enrage after a Healer LB3!
    But our Dancer was previously a Dragoon, he was tired of the job in SB and now he intend back to Dragoon because our DPS is low for the sole reason that we have 3 jobs that are not in the DPS Pantheon. In other words: You can't play the job you enjoy because you'll put more work on the rest of the party.
    We have a strong desire to tackle Ultimate but without adjusments on ranged, we would have to work and perform more than half of the other comps because we don't have the right jobs, how is it fair? It's not like the mobility would make give us an incredible advantage.

    We meet E4S DPS requirement with a small margin.
    But because we have 2 ranged, our group cannot afford to make more mistakes than a MNK/DRG/BLM/BLM comp.
    The irony.
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    Last edited by CKNovel; 08-30-2019 at 04:31 PM.

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    Saito Hikari
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    We meet E4S DPS requirement with a small margin.
    But because we have 2 ranged, our group cannot afford to make more mistakes than a MNK/DRG/BLM/BLM comp.
    The irony.
    That's the major thing that really worries me about the DPS gap becoming as wide as it is (plus the gap separating the top classes from the bottom five).

    We all know Ultimate is highly tuned to require intense coordination and expects high performance from every single player in the team. But with a gap this large, it begs the question: What party comp will it be balanced around, which also means what level of damage should we expect to do to clear it? If the situation remains as is and all of the bottom five don't receive substantial buffs, the developers cannot seriously claim that the next Ultimate will be clear-able with any party composition at all.

    (Arguing with FC friends about the situation resulted in a fair amount of people thinking that my interest in this was purely from a personal standpoint. But no, I always had a vested interest in future-proofing, and the situation now threatens to affect future encounter design in a big way. This is exactly why the uproar now is so much louder than it ever was before.)
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    Last edited by SaitoHikari; 08-30-2019 at 05:20 PM.
    "Consider this old adage: When a Bard sings alone in a desert, and no one is around to hear him... Is he truly singing?"

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