PETITION: Regarding FINAL FANTASY XIV Steam Version (Mar. 8)

[worldofneil]

if you read the Terms of Service (ToS), you will realize that they are 100% within their rights to do this

No one is doubting that ANY company can change how things work. It doesn't mean we have to be happy about it, hence this thread. That being said...

If you didn't have the foresight to a) read the Terms of Service before purchase, and b) not realize that purchases on Steam would have to be played through Steam, then that's on you.

Please check your facts and read the Subscriber Agreement yourself before preaching it.

To make use of the Content and Services, you must have a Steam Account and you may be required to be running the Steam client and maintaining a connection to the Internet.

That part hasn't changed in years and right now it is still "may". Not that it will be required, may be required. This new requirement isn't coming from Steam, it's coming from Square Enix. If that wasn't clear enough, the wording on the announcement is "As part of our fraud prevention measures". It actually originally said because of Steam policies and when Steam denied this SE quietly updated the text to what it is now. So frankly, you can blame us for buying the game from Steam all you want, this change is absolutely nothing to do with them. But by your logic because we bought the game on Steam we should be punished for SE policy changes.

This is literally no different to if they decided to go after other specific customers who purchased the game from other specific retailers. Which in turn leads me onto where I asked you if you'd be happy if they placed restrictions on people who bought the game direct from SE:

To answer your question: I may not be happy with the scenario, but I wouldn't complain about it, because S-E is 100% within their rights to do just that.

I think you forget we can see your post history to know that's not actually true. I couldn't help notice that pretty much post you've ever made is very confrontational, but I didn't even have to go back further than the first page to see lots of examples where you are unhappy about SE decisions and voiced your complaints:

S-E has done a very poor job of building end game.

The best players in the world should clear content fast, but if it takes them only a day or two then S-E has completely failed in tuning. The world first clears should take 7-14 days. Sadly, this first tier will be dead within 24 hours. That really isn't acceptable.

When the 24-player raids enter the Alliance Roulette (so, when it's no longer current content), remove the item level restrictions and sync everyone to a minimum item level. Done, S-E. Problem solved.

Either S-E needs to completely block third party addons, or provide a parser for PS4. One or the other. Otherwise, they're intentionally allowing an unfair playing field.

You (or anyone else) can click the little blue icon to go to any of those posts to show that I'm not misquoting you. That's just from your latest post history. So please don't tell us we should be happy with this decision by Square Enix when clearly there's lots of things you're not happy with either.

[Granyala]

You are aware steam would have to also agree to this right?

They can’t just move your clients and data off of steam on their own choices, steam runs as steam does because steam demands it, a company cannot make these kind of alterations.

There is no data on steams servers. You don't even DL the actual game from steam, just the usual launcher setup you'd get on SE's webpage.
Steam is merely used as a proxy to launch the SE launcher. As soon as that is up and running, your data has nothing to do with steam anymore, you're within SE's ecosystem.

As such there would be nothing to move.

Sorry, but I don't think people should get a get out of jail free card because they made a poor purchasing decision.

You can stop trolling the thread now. You display nothing but "Schadenfreude" and your posts are not constructive at all.

[marisgard]

Honestly, its not so bad.

You don't have to reinstall the game, all you have to do is install the patcher (Currently is 50MB download) and you can transfer the files over to the Steam folder (Don't have to redownload). For some of us, Steam is also the only way to pay with PayPal, so I'm actually glad they decided to keep it there instead of pulling it away from the store. How does this prevent Credit Card theft? No idea, but yeah, this is being made a chicken out of a feather.

[Sorimachi87]

I am not asking for a "get out of jail free" card. I'm asking for confirmation that this will not negatively impact my ability to play the game, and if it does, I'm asking for SE to do everything in their power to fix that. I'm asking them to make sure that people who bought the game through Steam do not have a worse playing experience because they made a bad choice in where to purchase their game.

Basically this.

[Akuni]

While it's a good explanation, it's also ludicrous and riddled with entitlement. No one, and I mean no one, should be bailed out of a purchasing decision because they are no longer happy with an agreement that they consented to. It's so ridiculous.


So many of these complainers need to be adults and accept the consequences of their purchasing decisions.

Aside from being flat out wrong (dissolution contracts are a thing), belitteling others for not liking a situation pushed onto them while not being affected by said situation is the most childish thing I've seen here. Especially if there are good arguments (having a real example where this idea went south already) and compensations to SE (buying the game license again) offered. Big oof. You certainly painted a picture of yourself there. Not a pleasant one, though.

[worldofneil]

Just a reminder to everyone that if you own the game via Steam and haven't yet installed it through Steam, you only have until Thursday to do so.

[Halivel]

Just a reminder to everyone that if you own the game via Steam and haven't yet installed it through Steam, you only have until Thursday to do so.

Time to redownload the game. And /pray.

[Granyala]

Time to redownload the game. And /pray.

No need to. Install via steam (it only installs the launcher) and copy the contents of your game folder into common\FF XIV. Do not overwrite any files.
Saves you the DL.

[Halivel]

No need to. Install via steam (it only installs the launcher) and copy the contents of your game folder into common\FF XIV. Do not overwrite any files.
Saves you the DL.

Welp, I personally played through Steam anyway, but I did redownload the game not so long ago, because for some reason it had crashes in main menu on the moment when there should start the movie (you know, when you spend too much time on main screen).

[Granyala]

Welp, I personally played through Steam anyway, but I did redownload the game not so long ago, because for some reason it had crashes in main menu on the moment when there should start the movie (you know, when you spend too much time on main screen).

Yeah if you have problems like that, doing a clean install is always advisable b/c SE's launcher doesn't have an integrity check function.