So, can we just ban damage meters already.

[Rivxkobe]

well they were hard enough so a lot of people could not clear them and instead they got vote abandonned, including Labyrinth and Syrcus tower.

I've been playing since 2.0ish, not 100% certain when, but I remember the release of all ARR alliance raids and I could count on one hand the number of times people actually vote abandoned LotA. Syrcus was abandoned even less.

And this was back when people had to work the towers during King Behemoth and Step into AoEs during the second boss fight of Syrcus, and jump to the side platforms to avoid the massive AoE. People were fine at the game back then, everything was doable and while WoD was incredibly frustrating upon release because some people are slow to learn, it still wasn't abandoned that often because people wanted to get these things done.

[RyuSaarva]

I've been playing since 2.0ish, not 100% certain when, but I remember the release of all ARR alliance raids and I could count on one hand the number of times people actually vote abandoned LotA. Syrcus was abandoned even less.

And this was back when people had to work the towers during King Behemoth and Step into AoEs during the second boss fight of Syrcus, and jump to the side platforms to avoid the massive AoE. People were fine at the game back then, everything was doable and while WoD was incredibly frustrating upon release because some people are slow to learn, it still wasn't abandoned that often because people wanted to get these things done.

I remember having countless labyrinth vote abandons and syrcus was sometimes abandonned because the alliance could not beat the first boss.

[RoyalBeef]

I've been playing since 2.0ish, not 100% certain when, but I remember the release of all ARR alliance raids and I could count on one hand the number of times people actually vote abandoned LotA. Syrcus was abandoned even less.

And this was back when people had to work the towers during King Behemoth and Step into AoEs during the second boss fight of Syrcus, and jump to the side platforms to avoid the massive AoE. People were fine at the game back then, everything was doable and while WoD was incredibly frustrating upon release because some people are slow to learn, it still wasn't abandoned that often because people wanted to get these things done.

To be fair there are what, 9 alliance raids with 6 or so bosses each. Add in all the trial Bosses, 8 man raids etc, there is only so much a person can memorize. I end up in Roulette content I cannot remember. It's getting to the point where it's too much to expect everyone to know or remember every fight. Eventually we'll have like 100+ Bosses you can end up at randomly, that's when the "can only be done when 100% memorized" formula starts backfiring.