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  1. #11
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    PyurBlue's Avatar
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    Saphir Amariyo
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    Brynhildr
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    Thaumaturge Lv 40
    Quote Originally Posted by TwiibieTwuu View Post
    If card fishing was such a problem. Why not just add a multi card draw system. Instead of butchering the cards to be the same card?
    I don't know, but this is a good question to ask.

    The problem with the old cards was that they were random, which removed strategic play from the equation. You couldn't plan for anything besides getting lucky or holding a card for a long time, which was more of hindrance the longer you held it. We didn't need to lose the old card effects, we just needed the ability to actually use them on demand. Balance was always good. Arrow and Spear were mostly good. Bole/Ewer/Spire were situational. If you got one of the latter three at the wrong time they felt useless despite having powerful effects and you couldn't do anything about it.
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  2. #12
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    Avellin Adorel
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    I think they work better. Fishing for a balance is way overrated.
    Now you're just fishing for seals.

    Could use some fixes though.

    Example: If I'm NOT in combat and I use a card on someone who is, It puts me in combat but I do NOT get a seal. I should also get a seal. This is what annoys me the most.

    End the end, I still liked the old system more though.
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  3. #13
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    Peljra Nayitsu
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    Balmung
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nikolas_Wolfe View Post
    you are not however in the right to request a complete class re work just because you don't like it.

    You are still a casual player, you don't main it, therefore you aren't effected by it as heavily as us. You don't need to play it and you feel no pain if you don't

    For those of us who DO main them, our opinions and voices are louder than yours as a casual.
    I never said the class needs a complete re-work. I just said what they've done to the cards is kinda bad to the point they could just remove them all together and replace it with a damage buff and t would feel the same.

    I do agree people who Main a class have louder opinions. The only problem with that is that people who only main that class Mint have a certain dedication to that class and might willingly accept any change given.
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  4. #14
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    Nikolas Wolfe
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    Jenova
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by TwiibieTwuu View Post
    I never said the class needs a complete re-work. I just said what they've done to the cards is kinda bad to the point they could just remove them all together and replace it with a damage buff and t would feel the same.

    I do agree people who Main a class have louder opinions. The only problem with that is that people who only main that class Mint have a certain dedication to that class and might willingly accept any change given.
    It is not that we accept any changes given, it's that we adapt to them and understand on the whole level instead of just the basic sight of casual players. You miss the old system without seeing the deeper picture of what that old system was to what the new system is.

    BELIEVE ME if we mains had SEVERE changes that actually significantly hurt the class, we would be in an uproar, however this is not the case

    You suggest removing the cards all together for a damage buff. That would cause the class to be severely damaged, taking out the complexity of which cards go to which player. That is too much "dumbing it down" making it easier. While yes, it has been made easier to manage, we don't need it stupid easy.
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    Last edited by Nikolas_Wolfe; 08-24-2019 at 01:50 AM.

  5. #15
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    Peljra Nayitsu
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    Balmung
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nikolas_Wolfe View Post

    You suggest removing the cards all together for a damage buff. That would cause the class to be severely damaged, taking out the complexity of which cards go to which player.
    I wasn't serious about the whole "remove cards thing" but it just feels like when you make all the cards "gives 5% damage to ..." It would probably feel the same as a single buff.
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  6. #16
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    Xetsu Mitsuhara
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    Goblin
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by TwiibieTwuu View Post
    I wasn't serious about the whole "remove cards thing" but it just feels like when you make all the cards "gives 5% damage to ..." It would probably feel the same as a single buff.
    I said this before, I can say it again.
    Leave the balance buff card "IN" Divination.
    Give us the old cards back.
    Generate random seals, so no one can say you're fishing for seals.
    If you get lucky with 3 perfect seals, woohoo! If not, oh well.
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  7. #17
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    Ein'sf Florr
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    Kujata
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    As much as I very much prefer the card variety in old AST, I'm going to respect the devs decision and suck it up with this new AST. They already answered in live letter that they are set on going forward with what we have now. So to me it's pointless to keep asking them to go back and revert to old cards.

    For now however, I do want them make adjustments to the job to improve several annoyances we currently have which have been suggested in several other threads.
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    Aliane Redwyne
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    Shiva
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Long answer: read all the comments, fishing for cards is not fun


    Short answer: No


    Meme answer:
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  9. #19
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    Y'dyalani Rhus
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    Louisoix
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    As I said in the job you do t click with thread, I like the change. Made the job a lot more easier to get to grips with.
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  10. #20
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    Hash Browns
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Nah, the card system is better now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikhaill View Post
    I said this before, I can say it again.
    Leave the balance buff card "IN" Divination.
    Give us the old cards back.
    Generate random seals, so no one can say you're fishing for seals.
    If you get lucky with 3 perfect seals, woohoo! If not, oh well.
    Sounds like you just want a worse version of the old card system.
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