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    Johanna Yevon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespar View Post
    I feel bad for BLU mage and I really want to like it more. But it just feels so irrelevant all of the time. Its pure novelty and I dont feel thats a good thing.

    I'd really love if the devs would take the time to reconsider the job and rework it into something useable for all content. Even if that means it stops being broken or over-powered for the content it can access. Or if it has to lose some spells/etc.

    It deserves better. I know this has been brought up many times before, but please, in the future I hope you'll reconsider it and not bring out anymore limited jobs. I'd hate to see anymore jobs fall prey to the same treatment
    Feel free to give suggestions on how it can evolved from a Limited Job.
    Probably its biggest issue is literally in how a Blue Mage Functions, they'd have to give it fixed functions which could step on the jobs identity., which can also hurt the Job.
    This isn't an easy fix, the current idea is Solid....for a start. But then its limited afterwards. The latter, giving it fixed skills could ruin the Job itself because then its pretty much a glorified Black mage. Not to mention the amount of Balancing they'd have to do to consider making it a Hybrid job: if it keeps Might Guard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Feel free to give suggestions on how it can evolved from a Limited Job.
    Probably its biggest issue is literally in how a Blue Mage Functions, they'd have to give it fixed functions which could step on the jobs identity., which can also hurt the Job.
    This isn't an easy fix, the current idea is Solid....for a start. But then its limited afterwards. The latter, giving it fixed skills could ruin the Job itself because then its pretty much a glorified Black mage. Not to mention the amount of Balancing they'd have to do to consider making it a Hybrid job: if it keeps Might Guard.
    How would giving it a fixed duty set of spell make it a glorified black mage? Is red mage a glorified black mage? How about smn? BLU is already unique as a caster as its the only caster to have ogcds with cast times, make the class revolve more around those and youll have a distinctly unique feeling mage to the others.
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    Savage Completion Rate ~5%+ of active players. Community: "Ugh stop catering to savage"
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReiMakoto View Post
    How would giving it a fixed duty set of spell make it a glorified black mage? Is red mage a glorified black mage? How about smn? BLU is already unique as a caster as its the only caster to have ogcds with cast times, make the class revolve more around those and youll have a distinctly unique feeling mage to the others.
    In a way? Yes. Redmages thing though is that it also has 2 healer skills, and it has the awesome Dual Cast passive.
    Black Mage doesn't have healing skills, but it does have a skill that allows it to cast 3 spells back to back, kind of like a Super Dual Cast evolved into a Triple Cast.
    Summoner is legit its own thing, so no, its not a Glorified Black Mage.......black mage aint got no AOE like SUmmoners do yoh :P

    But still, the point is how can they turn it ito a full job class that can enter synced Match making, while keeping it balanced, and hopefull ynot step on what makes a blue mage...a bluemage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    In a way? Yes. Redmages thing though is that it also has 2 healer skills, and it has the awesome Dual Cast passive.
    Black Mage doesn't have healing skills, but it does have a skill that allows it to cast 3 spells back to back, kind of like a Super Dual Cast evolved into a Triple Cast.
    Summoner is legit its own thing, so no, its not a Glorified Black Mage.......black mage aint got no AOE like SUmmoners do yoh :P

    But still, the point is how can they turn it ito a full job class that can enter synced Match making, while keeping it balanced, and hopefull ynot step on what makes a blue mage...a bluemage
    Black Mages AOE is actually better than SMN IIRC

    Also you just give BLU mage a set of abilities to learn from the overworld/ dungeons/ trials that are the "balanced" or "Duty", which all have appropriate levels for syncing and have you learn them the same way as we currently do just with no rng. Ta Dah, Blue Mage is still Blue Mage and you have a class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReiMakoto View Post
    you just give BLU mage a set of abilities to learn from the overworld/ dungeons/ trials that are the "balanced" or "Duty", which all have appropriate levels for syncing and have you learn them the same way as we currently do just with no rng. Ta Dah, Blue Mage is still Blue Mage and you have a class.
    I like the idea of RNG going away thats for sure, but then What Spells would you give up & add? Alot of skills would be fun to keep, but would be VERY situational, that would then require a ton more balancing to make alot of the skills viable in game. I think Yoshi also expressed concern with the possibility of someone getting kicked because the Bluemage doesn't have X skill. And you kno wthere will be some people who will be lazy and say "Eh I dont need that skill" and they get kicked for not having it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Probably its biggest issue is literally in how a Blue Mage Functions, they'd have to give it fixed functions which could step on the jobs identity., which can also hurt the Job.
    I mean, the game already gives you magic totems infused with monster spells, so giving level up abilities isn't impossible to justify.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rasikko View Post
    BLU is dead, people. There's been no updates to it since the time that it came out(as far as I remember). I'm sorry you don't wanna hear that but it's time to come to terms with the truth.
    You realize that it only came out two patches ago, right?
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    Last edited by Berteaux_Braumegain; 08-24-2019 at 01:43 PM.