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  1. #21
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    lokowoko's Avatar
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    Lich Radiantfrost
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    Zodiark
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by P0W3RK1D View Post
    Admitidly the problem is that right now elements, and elemental weaknesses dont play a big role in the game "yet", and as is obvious it is usually overlooked.
    Elemental stats were removed in stormblood, to make it a feature in eureka and will most likely never see the light of day in normal gameplay again, i'm with the other person in thinking you don't play ffxiv or at least you've just jump potted into shadowbringers with the lack of knowledge you're showing.
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    Last edited by lokowoko; 08-23-2019 at 02:43 AM.

  2. #22
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    Clouse_Cleyra's Avatar
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    Clouse Cleyras
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    Rafflesia
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by lokowoko View Post
    Elemental stats were removed in stormblood, to make it a feature in eureka and will most likely never see the light of day in normal gameplay again, i'm with the other person in thinking you don't play ffxiv or at least you've just jump potted into shadowbringers with the lack of knowledge you're showing.
    Wow chill out a bit. Lack of knowledge? I have played and raided since ARR anf I never knew we even had elemental weakness and even less that it was thrown into eurka xD
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  3. #23
    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by Mansion View Post
    I like the idea of Seraph, but I mistakenly thought that using Fairy actions under Seraph would be buffed (because their name and icons changed), when they actually have the same potency.
    Her regen is indirectly buffed since Seraph has higher stats then Eos or Selene. Granted, it's not a huge amount. I get from 2500-2800 ticks with Eos and 2600-2900 ticks with Seraph, so it's roughly a 4% increase. She also has a higher spell speed which you can see with her Seraphic Veil (i.e. Embrace) casts which have a faster GCD in addition to the better potency. This is also a 4% reduction in GCD, so I suspect that is how much of a buff her stats give her.

    Embrace: 150 potency heal, 3 second GCD
    Seraphic Veil: 200 potency heal, 200 potency shield, 2.88 second GCD
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  4. #24
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    Billythepancake's Avatar
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    Evelynn Outreguerlain
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    Diabolos
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    Her regen is indirectly buffed since Seraph has higher stats then Eos or Selene. Granted, it's not a huge amount. I get from 2500-2800 ticks with Eos and 2600-2900 ticks with Seraph, so it's roughly a 4% increase. She also has a higher spell speed which you can see with her Seraphic Veil (i.e. Embrace) casts which have a faster GCD in addition to the better potency. This is also a 4% reduction in GCD, so I suspect that is how much of a buff her stats give her.

    Embrace: 150 potency heal, 3 second GCD
    Seraphic Veil: 200 potency heal, 200 potency shield, 2.88 second GCD
    I wish seraph had more of an impact. I think shed be better if she weren't locked behind a 120 second CD,but instead was tied to the fairy gauge. Be able to swap to her on the fly, and swap back whenever you want, but while shes out she consumes fairy gauge, and if it hits 0 shes forced back to your other fairy. If they did that then I could understand why her heals wouldn't need to really heal any more than your regular fairy, other than embrace, but they just made her rouse that comes with 2 succors that you have to get out in 15 seconds. Even in savage I'm finding it hard to find places to put out 2 oGCD succors. ._. I gave up miasma, miasma II, bane, and shadow flare for this. Can I trade back?
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    Last edited by Billythepancake; 08-23-2019 at 06:28 AM.


    Make SCH great again! Seriously though, we just want our class to be fun and engaging again, not OP, is that too much to ask for?

  5. #25
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    NobleWinter's Avatar
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    Winter Gem
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    Brynhildr
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Using Seraph is so much unnecessary work. I only summon her for the Consolation Shield so why doesn't she automatically cast it when called so I don't have to double weave summoning her and and then shielding the party. Seraph should also use the second Consolation charge automatically when her timer expires. There is no reason you should lose the 2nd cast when she leaves if that is her only purpose for existing. Seraph would be like an Earthly Star that only required summoning to get the full effect over 20 seconds instead of wasting three oGCDs when we have nothing worthwhile to weave in our rotation except a single DoT every 30 seconds. Am I really supposed to use Physick for weaving now? It's a joke but even I don't find it funny.
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  6. #26
    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by NobleWinter View Post
    if that is her only purpose for existing.
    It's not. /10char
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  7. #27
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    MartaDemireux's Avatar
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    Hiraeth Petrichor
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    Excalibur
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I wish Eos and Selene would determine your abilities with Seraph. Have Eos give Seraph HoTs and Selene give Seraph the shields. It would make teaming with another SCH much more smooth. As it is, if you both use Seraph at the same time, someone is wasting their shields. Having the fairy as your visual queue, it would work the same as AST stances.
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    Last edited by MartaDemireux; 08-25-2019 at 12:23 AM.

  8. #28
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    Rebecca Prairillot
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    Ultros
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    ghosting was one of the most annoying things on dps and now that seraph introduced it to healers i hate it even more when i press consolation with 4 seconds on her timer and it doesn't go off its incredibly frustrating
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  9. #29
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    EaMett's Avatar
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    Ea Sin
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    I personally think getting an ogcd succor with consolation is enough. The fact that you need to use the stacks back to back, can’t blessing, can’t union, and can’t dissipate also makes it interesting to time correctly.

    All in all, I think it’s a good mechanic. I would much rather see some of the bugs fixed (obviously) as I feel that would have a greater impact.
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  10. #30
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    Sloprano's Avatar
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    Quilia Labro
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    Cerberus
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Billythepancake View Post
    I wish seraph had more of an impact. I think shed be better if she weren't locked behind a 120 second CD,but instead was tied to the fairy gauge. Be able to swap to her on the fly, and swap back whenever you want, but while shes out she consumes fairy gauge, and if it hits 0 shes forced back to your other fairy. If they did that then I could understand why her heals wouldn't need to really heal any more than your regular fairy, other than embrace, but they just made her rouse that comes with 2 succors that you have to get out in 15 seconds. Even in savage I'm finding it hard to find places to put out 2 oGCD succors. ._. I gave up miasma, miasma II, bane, and shadow flare for this. Can I trade back?
    I beat myself over the head daily for wishing to the Monkey's Paw it would be fun to have a third fairy to play with. It granted the wish in the only way it know.

    A third summonable permanent fairy would be great as another niche addition to the job coming from 3.0. Current rendition of having two charges and mini-adlo I can't manually target for 20s dosen't sit right. Then even went to the lenghts of renaming Embrace, Whispering Dawn and Fey Illumination but only the first does something different. As something more to it, it could drain Fey Gauge to increase her healing/shields, of now the Gauge stays at 100 for most fights. I find myself using Physick instead of waiting on Union to trigger.
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