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  1. #31
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    Valkyrie_Lenneth's Avatar
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lacan View Post
    my character's father was beaten to within an inch of his life by a padjal for cutting down a tree he wasn't supposed to in the shroud.
    Does your character want to be emotionally scarred from the abuse he will get for refusing to play at a level expected by 3/7/23 other people?

    Their enjoyment is worth more than yours collectively, as there are more of them than you. Unless you offer to pay their subs or only play with premades from now on.
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  2. #32
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    Ceolred Stone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andevom View Post
    Then why would they be a CNJ in the first place?
    I had to learn healing magic to nurse him back to health.
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  3. #33
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    Galbsadi Nailo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacan View Post
    just... according the official site it should be okay:
    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/a_rea...ame/#!/armoury



    ????
    I actually do somewhat miss the days where you might want to not equip a job stone for some content. Not sure if you were around then, but I'll tell you (or anybody else) how it used to work.

    Instead of 'role actions,' we had 'cross-class skills.' When you leveled a particular class up to a certain level, they would unlock a skill that you could use not only as that class, but also as certain other jobs/classes. (Some of these became the role actions of today, such as the Gladiator's 'Rampart' skill, the Marauder's 'Bloodbath' skill, or the Pugilist's 'Second Wind.')

    As you leveled up your classes, you unlocked more slots for cross-class skills (as you still do with crafting and gathering classes, btw). At level cap (then lv50 [sorry, I didn't play HW when it was current])...a class would have up to 10-cross class skill slots, and they could use a large variety of cross-class skills this way. (For example, a Thaumaturge could use 'Physick' to heal themselves.)

    Jobs functioned more like a specialized version of classes, back then. Instead of having 10 cross-class slots (at cap)...you had 5, so you had to be pickier about what skills you brought. Further, some skills you could use as the class you couldn't use as a job (i.e. IIRC you couldn't use 'Physick' as Black Mage).

    This meant that when you were in groups, you pretty much always wanted to do things as a job...so you could better specialize into your role (i.e. more pewpew, less self-heal as a BLM vs THM)...but in the open world, there were situations where it might be better to not equip that job crystal (so you could self-heal, in the example given).

    However, anymore it's not like that, and there's pretty much never any reason to not equip a job crystal for non-RP purposes (slight exception in open-world content for lv30-35ish for ACN/SMN, perhaps).
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  4. #34
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    Andevom Vonskivaux
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacan View Post
    I had to learn healing magic to nurse him back to health.
    Why not be a SCH or an AST then?
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  5. #35
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    Sanna Rosewood
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacan View Post
    my character's father was beaten to within an inch of his life by a padjal for cutting down a tree he wasn't supposed to in the shroud.
    First you'd have to really piss a padjal off and 2nd anyone in living in the shroud would know those laws. Also it'd be more believable if it was a woodwailer as doing that by a padjal would be very out of character for one as they're all very chill types. It would make more sense to not even become a cnj outside of grid as the guildmaster is a padjal...
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  6. #36
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    Shai Rae
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacan View Post
    my character's father was beaten to within an inch of his life by a padjal for cutting down a tree he wasn't supposed to in the shroud.
    I 100% understand your desire to RP and stick to a storyline you've created. I actually admire your creativity and appreciate the care put into it. Unfortunately, when your fictionalized world begins to clash with the actual game mechanics there is a problem. I agree, you should be able to play however you see fit. However, you have to also take into consideration the limitations you will face without the job stone and how you could cause issues for others in your party.
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  7. #37
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andevom View Post
    Why not be a SCH or an AST then?
    Indeed, it would make more sense that your rp character would:
    Start as a CNJ (based in Gridania) then move onto ARC and SCH to distance themselves from the Padjal based Conjurers guild...
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  8. #38
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    Ceolred Stone
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    Quote Originally Posted by SannaR View Post
    First you'd have to really piss a padjal off and 2nd anyone in living in the shroud would know those laws. Also it'd be more believable if it was a woodwailer as doing that by a padjal would be very out of character for one as they're all very chill types. It would make more sense to not even become a cnj outside of grid as the guildmaster is a padjal...
    the padjal used his staff and broke both of his dad's kneecaps. So now dad can't work and my character has had to do a lot of things they regret to support his mom and baby brothers and sisters.
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  9. #39
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    Narukai Nephilim
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    Zodiark
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    RP wise Narukai is a master of the blade mainly katana (self taught), he also knows a little conjuring and thaumaturgey - In game I am crap at melee dps and main SMN and WHM because I seperate RP with playing the game I don't see why you cant just do that - Without your job crystal CNJ is impossible to play after lvl 45 due to missing out on important skills plus at lvl 80 you get wings! Actual WINGS like c'mon that shiz is cool!
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    “We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.”

    ― Oscar Wilde

  10. #40
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    Aylis Tessier
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lacan View Post
    well I just recently started leveling conjurer, just hit 24 last night, so I'll be getting my job stone soon... but I think for lore reasons I'm just gonna skip it. Conjurers can heal just fine as is from what I've noticed. I haven't had any problems with it.
    Well, there is a test you could try to see. Since you have Summoner level 70. You could try with a party of friends enter a level 70 synced dungeon as summoner and play party healer with just having access to Physic to see if any problems arise...Since Arcanist healed just fine with just that spell pre level 30 content also.

    If you want to RP a conjuror, yes by all means do so. If plan to take the role into parties with random players. Please have the job crystal and full kit and set the lore aside and go OOC. If you're RPing a dungeon with other rp'ers. Great! Awesome! For those situations set up alternate hot bars where you have access to Conjurer skills only and set a glamor to match the part.
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