Can We Talk about how PF on Aether Locks out NIN for E4S

[UnrealTai]

Let's be realistic - 90% of clear parties don't clear because players can't do mechanics or you have one or more players who are doing less than even the lowest percentile parses for their class. Sure it will make a difference whether you have a ninja or monk of equal skill if you're at 1% enrage, but it really sucks for ninja players who have to deal with this when usually it's not even their fault if the party can't clear.

And unrelated but your dummy numbers seem way off. I'm i456 overmelded with some savage pieces and I don't think I've ever hit a 20k opener. On a dummy I can probably do 11k max without food, but in an actual party trick will add 1k or more to that.

I can post some screens soon, its not off. I wouldnt screw with numbers like that. Not my style.
Will post some links tonight
p.s. im still doing TA on the dummy with true north. Maybe thats the difference youre seeing with only 11k?

Or how much det have you stacked? Like I mentioned DH was left out of my melds 100%, pure crit det since nin gets locked out of endgame anyway (just for fun)

[Nielk]

I can post some screens soon, its not off. I wouldnt screw with numbers like that. Not my style.
Will post some links tonight
p.s. im still doing TA on the dummy with true north. Maybe thats the difference youre seeing with only 11k?

Or how much det have you stacked? Like I mentioned DH was left out of my melds 100%, pure crit det since nin gets locked out of endgame anyway (just for fun)

I feel that pain being Locked out all too well,
glad to know the other players bases is also experiencing this issue with their classes aswell. I hope there will be Release date for those Patches or something to ease the pain of all this.

[Skiter]

Boss HP - 61.400.000
Fight Time - 810s
Best NIN with min ilvl - 11k
Average MNK with min ilvl - 13,5k ~ 14k
NIN Rdps - 1000
MNK Rdps - 300
Difference ~ 1,7k

1,7k x 810 = 1.377.000 = 2,24% Boss HP

If you put both at the best possible, the distance goes up to over 3%. For the DRG is not much different, if this is not absurd for you, I don't know what it is.

[KageTokage]

If 13.5K is considered "average" for a MNK in full 450 on that fight, then I lament how terribly I was playing on my first kill.

[Kabooa]

If 13.5K is considered "average" for a MNK in full 450 on that fight, then I lament how terribly I was playing on my first kill.

The records I was looking through had all those 'overpowered jobs' hovering around 12-12.5k, with a few stellar examples at 13-13.5k