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    xJimmehx's Avatar
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    Leon Manderville
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    Bullets penetrate medieval armor. Id say a GNB would win 100% of the time so long as they manage to shoot the enemy in the head at the start. Traditionally, real life gunblades were kind of bad to use and were intended as guns foremost while being swords second. If you were shooting your enemies and you needed to reload you could melee a bit as a last resort if you were interrupted. Back then people had to shoot one bullet at a time and they poured powder into the gun similarly to a flintlock. It was later decided that gunblades were not as efficient as rifles with knives on the end of the barrel. Thus we ended up with bayonets.

    Realistically, if one fought with a gun that was also a blade for close combat vs a man who held a 2h sword and heavy armor, the gun would make fast work of him. Now, if the dark knight was tossing around black magics theyd still die in one head shot so hed better cast faster than the gunner can pull the trigger.

    If the GNB for some reason could not shoot the drk in the head or some other vital spot, I have no doubt that the drk would eat them alive. Drk has a lot of strength and protection from swords with the armour. GNB wears a flimsy coat. Even if the drk couldnt hit the gnb with the large slow greatsword, he could just plunge him, toss magic at him or just about anything. After all, the gnb has no real protection from any type of attack. A single unmend to the eyes would likely take his eyesight. Any other attack would be like a butcher chopping into a hanged meat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xJimmehx View Post
    Yes
    I don't think Gunbreaker gunblades can actually shoot. They work like Squall's did in FFVIII, as far as I'm aware. I.e. the trigger pull sets off an explosion that runs powerful vibrations down the blade. Now Garlean gunblades.. yeah, those can definitely shoot.
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    Rayo Seibold
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    Problem with that is that GNB's don't use the Garlean's Gunblade which are closer to traditional real life gunblades, they use the FF8 version of the Gunblade which can be best described as "causing the sword to fire an explosion at point blank and using the force of that recoil off that explosion to super heat and power slash your sword"
    Not to mention DRK hits me as the kind of job that would have the user not just using dark magic, but running on it. As in the speed we see the DRK move their blade is only possible with magical assistance. And I imagine DRks are the only job that can up and ignore death until they finish what they started.
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    Just putting my 2 cents in this coin operated opinion machine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayo View Post
    Not to mention DRK hits me as the kind of job that would have the user not just using dark magic, but running on it. As in the speed we see the DRK move their blade is only possible with magical assistance. And I imagine DRks are the only job that can up and ignore death until they finish what they started.
    I'm inclined to agree with you. And thinking about it, we actually do see them moving pretty quickly at times. Sidguru has even shown the ability to wield that big honking sword of his as if it were little more than a longsword at times. Unfortunately, this does conflict with their actual combat animations pretty heavily. If you watch them, it looks an awful lot like they are struggling to swing that sword at times. Lorewise, the job becomes significantly more dangerous if they're capable of fighting and moving in the ways we've seen in some cutscenes rather than being limited by SE's odd decision to make their combat animations seem like their sword is way too heavy for them.
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    Last edited by Absimiliard; 08-21-2019 at 06:12 PM.

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    Edax Royeaux
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    Quote Originally Posted by xJimmehx View Post
    Bullets penetrate medieval armor. Id say a GNB would win 100% of the time so long as they manage to shoot the enemy in the head at the start. Traditionally, real life gunblades were kind of bad to use and were intended as guns foremost while being swords second. If you were shooting your enemies and you needed to reload you could melee a bit as a last resort if you were interrupted. Back then people had to shoot one bullet at a time and they poured powder into the gun similarly to a flintlock. It was later decided that gunblades were not as efficient as rifles with knives on the end of the barrel. Thus we ended up with bayonets.

    Realistically, if one fought with a gun that was also a blade for close combat vs a man who held a 2h sword and heavy armor, the gun would make fast work of him. Now, if the dark knight was tossing around black magics theyd still die in one head shot so hed better cast faster than the gunner can pull the trigger.

    If the GNB for some reason could not shoot the drk in the head or some other vital spot, I have no doubt that the drk would eat them alive. Drk has a lot of strength and protection from swords with the armour. GNB wears a flimsy coat. Even if the drk couldnt hit the gnb with the large slow greatsword, he could just plunge him, toss magic at him or just about anything. After all, the gnb has no real protection from any type of attack. A single unmend to the eyes would likely take his eyesight. Any other attack would be like a butcher chopping into a hanged meat.
    It might be easier to see in this picture. My character wields the first gunblade given to her at the start of the GNB job quest. Note how the cylinder doesn't even line up with the barrel because the gun part doesn't actually shoot bullets. If they did, this would be a very different conversation because the Gunblade would have significant range then.

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    Last edited by Edax; 08-21-2019 at 11:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    Note how the cylinder doesn't even line up with the barrel because the gun part doesn't actually shoot bullets.
    The hell? All that's going to do is blow up in your face lol

    Looks like the Edge goes to DRK.
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