There's not much unique-ness when it comes to tank jobs, are there?

[Seku]

But it wasn't though. The only outright evil Dark Knight Was Leon from FF2. Cecil was never evil and job didn't "eat away at his Soul". It's outright stated that he couldn't defeat the forces of Darkness while using Dark abilities. The rest of DRKs appearances where as a Neutral Job (Including, hilariously, FF10-2 with all it's J-pop bubbly nonsense). Also you have the whole "The player character is a famous hero" so the only thing they could get away with was Fantasy Greatsword wielding Batman. See also, Thieves.

Is this what we are reduced to now? Complaining that the Job doesn't cater to the edgy 15 year old demographic enough?


You obviously haven't been paying attention. Please sit down before you hurt yourself.

Actually I was. The person I replied to said that SE can do whatever they want with the job. I responded and agreed that they could, and that they obviously ripped off Rune Fencer and Celes.

And yes, complaining that the job doesn't cater to the edgy 15 year old demographic enough is a valid thing (Though it's probably the egiest it's ever been with that 50-60 storyline), since DRK in almost all of it's iterations has been about weakening it's foe(s), as well as killing itself to do damage only to get said hp back via drain abilities, dealing more damage while weaken, **dealing damage**, regardless of the character's own personal alignment. In short, I don't care what Cecil's goals, aspirations, or motivations were. Nor does the power that he wields. Nor should you.

They done messed the job (At least from it's original design) up that SE established over many games. End of story. Now go back to playing your DERK Knight before you hurt yourself. Hope you enjoy it.

Would you care to provide a direct reference in FFXIV on how a Dark Knight's power can rob them of their individuality and turn them into a killing machine?

I have both lore books and a transcript of every single line from the Dark Knight questline, and I'm struggling to find support for your claim.

Maybe not rob them of their individuality, but you do almost become a mindless killing machine in the level 50 quest, which causes the player character (Us) to control the darkness or be controlled by it. Ie: We go to whitebrim and basically slay a bunch of Knights (or KO) before having to fight ourselves, our inner darkness, to regain control and learn to control the Derknessss, our souls, and our minds.

https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Our_Answer (All quest trasncripts can be found there, including the journal which basically shows you (the player character) is going insane and are no longer wanting to serve or save people, but instead only kill.)

And

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWcCoqf5MBY == a entire video for the first part where you can easily see that Fray (which is really you by the way, the real Fray was dead long ago~) 100% killed a bunch of (possibly / more than likely / 90% sure) innocent Knights before we get to go and beat ourselves down in a derk derk moment because your character lost their mind (really, they are talking to themselves and imaging a dead person is there as themselves because we needed a mentor. We literately stole someone else identity.....and are wanting to kill people because they annoy us with their tasks).

And then to further support Asbimilard. This is a direct quote from the journal entry.

"Darkness dwells within us all, but few are forced to confront it as you are. One moment, Fray stands before you, and in the next, it is your twin. As you wrestle for control with your darkside, the voices of Whitebrim Front cry out to you in support, even as your own voice belittles your struggle. And then...as quickly as it began, it ends. Your soul is in your keeping once more."

In short, by using the Dark Knight Job stone we get tainted by the darkness and through the course of our leveling we teach ourselves how to deal with it. Or as "Fray" *cough (ourselves) cough* tells us, without proper training "It can hurt". Basically meaning that without learning how to control it, we lose control and start beating people up (Much like warrior, but with a cause other than hulking out on roids. I mean don't you want to kill a NPC or two that sends you on your 1 billionth fetch quest (I know I do) )