So, can we just ban damage meters already.

[Rivxkobe]

... lv70-80 players certainly know their rotations and fights well enough for their peace of mind.

/pats

Too be so innocent.

[Imbrium]

/pats

Too be so innocent.

You dont group with randoms often, do you?

Not sure why I had two people both taking that out of its context, re: a lv70-80 player in a learning dungeon and why they probably don't need their parser if they are. But let me expand then. Most players that I know who parse for self improvement don't have ACT up at all times. They only have it up when they want to check their numbers for prog, or if they want to experiment with a new skill/spell speed tier. Most of my own raid group will start to slip on running ACT as we consistently clear savage fights to the point where there are weeks no one parsed a fight, and there are no logs shown. As they have these jobs well over the leveling dungeon requirement and can play them by heart, why would they need their parsers at low levels? They don't.

They certainly don't care what the other dps's numbers are, because if the run has taken 5-10 minutes longer than it should have you've already zero'd in on a player or two causing issues. It's been said in here that you don't need ACT to notice performance issues, and in some cases it's sad how easy that's true. No aoeing mobs? No healer dps? Tank is capable of large pulls but does 1-3? The brd is watching Netflix and auto attacking?? Someone is so under geared you want to cry? (I've seen this last one SO MANY TIMES in SB and have been seeing it in ShB more than I'd like!) The samurai/blm has dancer tether but has less aggro on a boss/trial fight than said dancer? The list goes on.

Royal this was specifically low lv content. I have been the person complaining in discord and linkshell chat about every other job in a df or pf group. I understand the frustration a lot of you are bringing in here, but it was mostly misplaced in this thread until it was derailed by the other posters and rerouted into 'why we need parsing:endgame and all your griping about fail players!'.

Low level content. Everyone kindly attempt to be decent human beings to learning players; it's not that hard of a concept. The ToS doesn't in any way prevent constructive advice, it's been mod checked. So the people lamenting on not being able to 'call out' people for their performance can talk to their group on how to improve, just don't be rude about it.