So, can we just ban damage meters already.

[Kaedan]

You don't need a parser to tell who is underperforming in a dungeon. It's pretty obvious when it happens. And if they weren't posting specific dps numbers (which WOULD be evidence of them using a parser you could report), then there's no reason to assume they're using a parser.

Parsers are great tools for hard content. When there is a tight dps check, a parser helps groups fix enrage problems. Frankly there's no point in parsing non-Extreme/non-Savage content at all, as even if someone is terrible at their job, you're in no danger of failing the content due to lack of DPS.

[Videra]

Parsers are great tools for hard content. When there is a tight dps check, a parser helps groups fix enrage problems. Frankly there's no point in parsing non-Extreme/non-Savage content at all, as even if someone is terrible at their job, you're in no danger of failing the content due to lack of DPS.

I parse in most content, myself. Mostly just because I like to hold myself to a decent standard, and having numbers is the only way to do that.

[Kaedan]

I parse in most content, myself. Mostly just because I like to hold myself to a decent standard, and having numbers is the only way to do that.

To each their own, but non-Extreme/non-Savage content really has no standard to hold yourself to. You don't need a parser to tell you if you're sucking it up in a dungeon. "Having numbers" isn't "the only way" to critique your performance in dungeons.

[Granyala]

"Having numbers" isn't "the only way" to critique your performance in dungeons.

It is because human perception is inherently flawed.

That being said: In dungeons I only parse for fun, when I am in there with a buddy and we want to see who can dish out more. I really don't care much about randoms performance b/c they are so easy and stuff dies anyway. Don't get my wrong: I will facepalm IRL when I see a no DPS healer standing around or get a funky ice mage but I won't say anything.

Also what @Imbrium said. LEARNING content means: I will get a lot of people still trying to wrap their heads around how stuff works. So the expectation of "good performance" is misplaced. And yes: that includes expert dungeons because despite their name, they are usually the first half serious environment in which you get to play your class with all abilities attached to it.
Imho it is retarded game design to teach people wrong rotations during the leveling process and then go a 180 at max level but hey. Not my game.

[SamSmoot]

You don't need a parser to tell who is underperforming in a dungeon

How can you tell that? I can barely tell how well I'm doing without using one, let alone other jobs that I'll never play.

[Vidu]

How can you tell that? I can barely tell how well I'm doing without using one, let alone other jobs that I'll never play.

It does require a certain knowledge of the jobs present, thats true.
Here a few general ways to start though - note: "doing well" does not only include dealing damage in my book.

For tanks
- obvious: are they holding aggro on everything?
- do you see them using their cooldowns in appropriate situations?

For healers
- do they have long peridos when they just stand around, doing nothing?
-> do you see them casting any dps-spells?
- are they using their HoTs appropriatly? (aka not between pulls)

For dps

- are they using their AoE-skills (in mob-groups of 4+)?
-> you can tell that several different ways:
1) Are all mobs HP dripping with more or less the same speed or is one mobs HP dropping a lot faster? If so, chances are that mob is being single targetted
2) Is everyone on everys mob aggro-list? If not, the person who isnt isnt using their AoE-skills. If someone only has the slightest bit of aggro (and siginficantly less than everyone else) chances are that person isnt using their full aggro-rotation but just hitting some skills in between that happen to be AoE
3) Do you see them cast or use AoE-spells? This requires a bit more knowledge of the jobs, aka needing to know which spells for catsers are AoE and telling whats AoE by animations. Good rule of thumb though: AoE-skills look like AoE-skills. So if stuff doesnt look like its hitting the whole group, its worth keeping an eye on the person in question.
- obviously the opposite is true for boss- or single target fights in general
- this is a bit more job-specific: do you see any buffs on their hotbar and/or dots on the enemy? Jobs like dragoon and monk always want to have certain buffs up and bard and summoner always want to keep dots on the mobs etc.
- do you see them using support-skills at all? Did the dancer pick a partner? Any group-buffs from bard, dancer, maschinst, dragoon, monk...? (aka: is a buff appearing on your buffbar?)

For everyone
- are mechanics being executed correctly?
- are they avoiding AoEs?
- is stuff dying fast enough?

With a bit of basic knowledge of every job its not that difficult to tell if someone has understood the basics of the job or not.
I couldnt tell if someone mastered their job, but I can tell if someone is completly failing at it, even if its a job like dragoon that I never play - because I still know enough to watch their buffs for certain icons.