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  1. #23071
    Player
    Lynesse's Avatar
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    Leona Valesti
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    Ultros
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rilifane View Post
    Reminds me of my first time in Ghimlyt Dark. I watched a guide so I knew what was coming - in theory.
    I warned my party that I fully expect to die during Commence Airstrike and true to my word, I got smashed into the floor during our first try. After reading countless stories about how it's a rite of passage (escpecially for healers) to die from Commence Airstrike during your first run, a tiny part of me hoped I would do better. A much larger part knew I'd fck up and wasn't disappointed.

    Now I'm equally looking forward to and dreading Eden.
    That was me! xP Eden is a lot easier than Commence Airstrike.

    Commence Airstrike tries to trick you into killing yourself. It's a peculiar and cruelly designed mechanic. The way to dodge it runs counter to what your instincts tell you. There are three ways to survive it, and all three are pretty obtuse.

    But nothing lies to you in Eden. It's all very obvious.

    I haven't healed Eden, but based on what I've seen, it seems its biggest issue is other people dying to Landslide.

    Edit: For Eden, E1, 2, and 3 are all really self-explanatory. E4's Massive Landslide and Fault Zone mechanics are the ones that kill people, so study these closely. Once you've mastered the "run to the corner" mechanic of E1, the "don't stand here" mechanics of E2 and E3, and Massive Landslide/Fault Zone, you'll be perfect.
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    Last edited by Lynesse; 08-17-2019 at 04:28 AM.

  2. #23072
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    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Character
    Hyomin Park
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    So I decided to jump on an alt and get her GNB closer to 70 so she could start the ShB MSQ. Queue into Alliance Roulette and I get Dun Scaith (I’m shocked it wasn’t LotA or ST). Well, the MT died to both Scathach and Diabolos (both forms), so I pick up the boss because idk what the third tank was doing. And the healers heal me at first, and then just stop. I died 3 times to Diabolos Hollow after rotating everything I had (including Superbolide) to his tankbusters. I was near death during his vanilla autoattacks. Idk what they were doing—probably raising the two BLMs that refused to move out of the middle and were pingponged around by the floating orbs—but I was starting to get a little annoyed when I began dying to straight auto-attacks.

    I did catch one just casting Stone III as I was literally on the brink of death after a tankbuster. I’m guessing the regular MT was experiencing similar issues with healing, since they died during Diabolos Hollow’s auto-crit attacks (Awareness, wherefore art thou). Unlike LotA and ST, you can’t just ignore tanks in Dun Scaith, healers. So please, heal them.
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  3. #23073
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    Lynesse's Avatar
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    Leona Valesti
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    Ultros
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Snip.
    This happened to me in Susano. Actually happens to me more than it should. It's making me want to go back to PLD, honestly.
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  4. #23074
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    Silver-Strider's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Silver Strider
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Just did an Amaurot run.
    Group is a GNB, SAM, DNC with myself as WHM. I believe the DNC was new to the dungeon so I could forgive their mistakes on boss mechanics but they clearly didn't know how to play their class either, same with the SAM as the lack of much AoE from either was very noticeable throughout the run. 1-2 Standard step for the entire dungeon and I didn't seem much AoE from the SAM either.

    We slosh thru the dungeon until the last boss. Now, I already acknowledged the DNC as new when they died ro the meteor during the 1st boss so they had an excuse but the SAM was what got me during this fight. Both he and the DNC decided to eat Apocalypse, TWICE. The 1st time they were both literally 2 feet from the safety platform and decide not to even bother getting on, resulting in me spamming cure 3 on them, which worked but rip my MP. 2nd time, I couldn't and they both ended up eating pavement. I rezzed them both and they finally go the memo to move for Apocalypse but between them eating head lazers and getting hit by AoEs, it was an absolute nightmare to heal them. Used all my oGCDs/lilies, and was pretty much at 1/4 MP by the time we finished the boss.

    Tank was cool about it all, complimented me for carrying the 2 dead weights and we all left. He had some words for the DPS as well that weren't flattering but I felt better at least, knowing I wasn't the only one noticing their screw ups.
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  5. #23075
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    kidalutz's Avatar
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    Sigrun Helasdottir
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    Just did an Amaurot run.
    Group is a GNB, SAM, DNC with myself as WHM. I believe the DNC was new to the dungeon so I could forgive their mistakes on boss mechanics but they clearly didn't know how to play their class either, same with the SAM as the lack of much AoE from either was very noticeable throughout the run. 1-2 Standard step for the entire dungeon and I didn't seem much AoE from the SAM either.

    We slosh thru the dungeon until the last boss. Now, I already acknowledged the DNC as new when they died ro the meteor during the 1st boss so they had an excuse but the SAM was what got me during this fight. Both he and the DNC decided to eat Apocalypse, TWICE. The 1st time they were both literally 2 feet from the safety platform and decide not to even bother getting on, resulting in me spamming cure 3 on them, which worked but rip my MP. 2nd time, I couldn't and they both ended up eating pavement. I rezzed them both and they finally go the memo to move for Apocalypse but between them eating head lazers and getting hit by AoEs, it was an absolute nightmare to heal them. Used all my oGCDs/lilies, and was pretty much at 1/4 MP by the time we finished the boss.

    Tank was cool about it all, complimented me for carrying the 2 dead weights and we all left. He had some words for the DPS as well that weren't flattering but I felt better at least, knowing I wasn't the only one noticing their screw ups.
    Why would you use cure 3 and not cure 2 followed up with either a lilly or a regen?

    but yeah next time you get a group like that.. medica swiftcast medica II if they insist on staying in the bad rescue one to safety let the other die slowcast res so the other one you saved gets the point then switch off to the other if they dont.
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    Last edited by kidalutz; 08-17-2019 at 09:25 AM.

  6. #23076
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    Cincierta's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Alaha Vellonnu
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by kidalutz View Post
    Why would you use cure 3 and not cure 2 followed up with either a lilly or a regen?
    More than likely he was reserving cure 2 and lilies for the tank and himself. I've yet to get into ShB (I've been grinding my dps classes up), though from the sounds of things the dps and the tank and healer were spread out or clustered on the other side of the room. Cure 3 might've made more sense, but it would've been wiser to pop regens, unless the two dps weren't that terribly bright.
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    This one is beyond your help. Only sleep can save her now.

  7. #23077
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    Skivvy's Avatar
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    Boo Box
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    Rafflesia
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by kidalutz View Post
    Why would you use cure 3 and not cure 2 followed up with either a lilly or a regen?
    I'm assuming due to the AOE nature of the spell, and that there were two of them standing in the bad. If the run was as bad as it sounds, there's a good chance there were no instant-cast spells available at the time.
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  8. #23078
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    Keddera_StormMoon's Avatar
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    Tifka Stormmoon
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    We're on a Amaurot run. Group seems pretty competent and I'm keeping up with the heals.

    Until the last leg when the DRK pulls deep. I don't like long hard pulls on these because of all the AE's - makes it harder for me to do my job and get extra dps out. In fact, it seems like more work than it's worth - kinda like that last leg of The Burn.

    At any rate, I do my best to keep up, but it doesn't work out. He goes down, but I keep the DPS up. But I end up digging deep in my bag of trips to do so including eating the fairy to do so (long ass cooldown just spent there).

    So what's the DRK do when he's back up and we've cleared the group. Pulls the same number of mobs again.

    I don't have my big cooldown available for that - so we wipe.

    Look, I don't care if that trick worked for you in a previous group. But if it doesn't work in the current group you're in, adjust and pull slower ffs. We wasted so much time on those two wipes when we could of been done and over with that run by just pulling one group less per pull.
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  9. #23079
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    Jaelommiss's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Qina Jumaloth
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    I (PLD) and someone from my static (AST) got Shisui in leveling roulette today. We both noticed that I was losing HP fast, but with good CD management we were still able to do big pulls so we didn't think more of it.

    During the trash pull after the second boss I noticed this:

    Turns out I forgot to update my gear set after some trust dungeons this morning and had thrown away the old gear. The final group of trash and boss went far smoother after I reequipped everything.
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  10. #23080
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    AlphaFox's Avatar
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    Rena Ryuugu
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Just had a Bardam Mettle where the tank wanted to go all princess mode because he tried to pull that giant Eagle with the next pack and dropped quickly, despite the healer going nuts and trying to keep him up. Queue up the insults and name calling mixed with lack of rolling for items, had to sneak in that lovely kick right after the DDR fight. People worry to much about waiting for a replacement tank, had a new one 5 seconds later. Really need to stop rewarding people for their nasty behavior.
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