So, can we just ban damage meters already.

[UnrealTai]

What do you even mean by this statement, how can you tell if someone is "bad" in your definition, or just learning? Just if they open up chat and start trash talking?

In general I think it depends on the type of "bad" player. A "bad" player can improve, they should be defended. This might come as a shock to some of the people who read some of my posts on here as well. They do not deserve to be harassed - nobody does. However, I have a different threshold of what I consider "rude" or "harassment".

Now, I will say if they are the ones doing the "harassment" the right thing to do would be to ignore it and move on. That would be in a perfect world though. In this situation I usually just laugh it off, or start talking about them to my friend over discord - those conversations aren't safe for work or these forums.. I do not think people should be reporting anybody for "harassment" or whatever either, unless it is actually severe enough to warrant it. Both sides are in the wrong. I would actually like it to be difficult to report someone too for this kind of thing. Only the people who truly believe it is worth it will go through the hassle to actually make the report, granted I don't know how hard it is to actually report in this game - I have never reported anybody.

We all have our bad moments, like me apparently - I died stupidly to a mechanic and forgot how to play RDM today when I went in for my weekly ES1 clear. Yeah, I have been playing PoTD monk nonstop, and hadn't even touched es1 since my practice group cleared it where I was also tabbed out and the boss got pulled so I didn't do any good. I won't make any excuses for my bad play, but I don't think I would deserve to be harassed over it. I apologized to my group and we moved on and cleared it. Everyone was good.

What I mean is exactly how I said it. May need to read it differently. My brain types and thinks differntly then most people, idk lol.
If youre level 50+ and all you see is a dps doing a 1 combo rotation, in a 4 player dungeon, thats not learning, thats bad. We also had a SMN in e4s today who did 0 dps for 3 rounds but was NOT afk, and when a dnc called him out he responded with, well im calling out mechanics. (he wasnt). Thats bad too.

But ya same here, in 20 years of mmorpg I can count on one hand the times ive reported.

I get the feeling alot of people in this topic would need two hands for just one week.
We need to put an end to the #DaddyGM business

[SturmChurro]

We also had a SMN in e4s today who did 0 dps for 3 rounds but was NOT afk, and when a dnc called him out he responded with, well im calling out mechanics. (he wasnt). Thats bad too.

But ya same here, in 20 years of mmorpg I can count on one hand the times ive reported.

I get the feeling alot of people in this topic would need two hands for just one week.
We need to put an end to the #DaddyGM business

Yeah, if there is one thing I don't like it's players who don't take responsibility for their bad play, or try to get carried - blatantly. It isn't someone learning, or making a stupid mistake which I can forgive, it's someone knowingly putting in little to no effort so others can do the work for them.

I agree completely on the reporting. It's ridiculous nowadays, and it's like a staple of this game apparently. Report, report, report. I actually feel bad for players (speaking on the topic) who post other players parses or their own constructively in chat - those logs are there forever. All it takes is one person deciding they think it would be funny to report. There are players like that too - people who report for fun, because they know the GM's actually act on it. You can get someone talked to by a GM for reporting cuss words, or "profanity" even as some random person who see's the chat, apparently. It's ridiculous. Like what are we playing, Club Penguin?