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    Glad to hear another survey is in the pipelines. I know several players who do not participate on the forums both currently playing or retired who have been greatly interested in participating in more surveys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kio View Post
    Glad to hear another survey is in the pipelines. I know several players who do not participate on the forums both currently playing or retired who have been greatly interested in participating in more surveys.
    Now see I don't like this, if it was any other game, fine, but exactly because XIV changes so drastically from one big patch to the next, we should not allow voting from people that are not subscribers, I feel uneasy that people who are not even playing getting a chance to influence what a game will become for those that are, reminds me of that guy at work that keeps trowing chocolate, marshmallows, and sugar into his oatmeal every morning at lunch, poking at it with a spoon for half an hour, than throwing it in the trash because he didn't like what he made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeref View Post
    Now see I don't like this, if it was any other game, fine, but exactly because XIV changes so drastically from one big patch to the next, we should not allow voting from people that are not subscribers, I feel uneasy that people who are not even playing getting a chance to influence what a game will become for those that are, reminds me of that guy at work that keeps trowing chocolate, marshmallows, and sugar into his oatmeal every morning at lunch, poking at it with a spoon for half an hour, than throwing it in the trash because he didn't like what he made.
    That is why a smartly designed survey will have "are you currently subscribed?" "Yes/No" option. This way opinions can be varied and weighted appropriately.

    I'd hate to have all of the XI purists and people who are subscribed now (who somehow are actually happy with the game) continue saying undesirable stuff like "I give this game a 8.4/10," when in fact it is marginally better than it was since launch. Or call for an "increase in level cap." When anyone, having played XIV at launch or even for a week sometime since launch, would logically know that increasing the level cap before 2.0 would be disastrous due to the fact that there isn't enough content in the game right now and that increasing the level cap would just increase the amount of grinding required.

    There are plenty of topics that can be discussed without 100% hands on knowledge of the game. Would it help to be playing? Sure... but sometimes being an armchair critic can be vastly beneficial based on outside knowledge.

    Plus, the primary audience XIV/SE should be trying to gain back are those that aren't currently subscribed right now... so clearly their opinions are of value and do matter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    Fantstic news. I hope the questions arn't too leading. There definatley should be room for around a 500 character limited comment section at the bottom for more spesific concerns and sugestions not covered by the poll.
    Why even bother capping them? A fully orchestrated opinion on tetra master/triple triad/card game/player housing/chocobo racing/stat redo/etc should be incredibly valued. Limiting text is just limiting the complete picture.
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    Last edited by Tibian; 01-12-2012 at 11:32 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tibian View Post
    Why even bother capping them? A fully orchestrated opinion on tetra master/triple triad/card game/player housing/chocobo racing/stat redo/etc should be incredibly valued. Limiting text is just limiting the complete picture.
    Only because it would take forever to go through all of them.

    We want this thing done eventually right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    Only because it would take forever to go through all of them.

    We want this thing done eventually right?
    5-year plan anyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeref View Post
    Now see I don't like this, if it was any other game, fine, but exactly because XIV changes so drastically from one big patch to the next, we should not allow voting from people that are not subscribers, I feel uneasy that people who are not even playing getting a chance to influence what a game will become for those that are, reminds me of that guy at work that keeps trowing chocolate, marshmallows, and sugar into his oatmeal every morning at lunch, poking at it with a spoon for half an hour, than throwing it in the trash because he didn't like what he made.
    I think it's important for SE to know what features or play style they need to introduce in order to increase their customer base, and that obviously can only be done by asking why nonsubscribers currently are not. Otherwise the game will remain a niche game.
    I do agree with you though that by trying to please everyone you ultimately end up pleasing no one. Sometimes when I read all the "add this!" "remove that!" requests on the forum, it worries me that the game may become like the "Art of the Dress" My Little Pony episode.
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