Family fee - just an Idea, would that work?

[Reylegh]

This. On paper it's a good idea but it's going to be taken advantage of almost immediately. Plus I can see some legacy players being downright pissed that they aren't getting a good deal on subscriptions anymore. My friend who played in 1.0 only has to pay 2/3rds on her subscription but that price is in compensation for playing the original launch of this game.

I understand that some would want to take advantage of it, hence why I suggested that this could be bound to a few possibilities:
1st - proven relationship - it is not illegal to prove your relationship, it is only illegal to store such data, it's same as with banking, crypto wallets and otehr financial pages, where you have to prove your identity.
2nd - connection only under the same IP adress, this would prevent to sell such an account to others, as your family would count only to those living under the same roof.

I know it would be a lot of work, but it might be worth some brainstorming
Also about limitation, I think 3-4 should be somewhat a max amount that can be bound as family.

But hey, just thinking out loud

[HumanNinjaToo]

I understand that some would want to take advantage of it, hence why I suggested that this could be bound to a few possibilities:
1st - proven relationship - it is not illegal to prove your relationship, it is only illegal to store such data, it's same as with banking, crypto wallets and otehr financial pages, where you have to prove your identity.
2nd - connection only under the same IP adress, this would prevent to sell such an account to others, as your family would count only to those living under the same roof.

I know it would be a lot of work, but it might be worth some brainstorming
Also about limitation, I think 3-4 should be somewhat a max amount that can be bound as family.

But hey, just thinking out loud

Proving relations would be such a headhache. The only sure-fire way is blood-work/DNA testing. I doubt anyone wants to go through with that if they don't have too, because it can run upwards of $400 per test. That's a lot of money to get $5 bucks knocked off your sub. I mean... I guess you've made the money back after 8 years of playing? Oof

[Reylegh]

...The only sure-fire way is blood-work/DNA testing....

Nah, simple ID, school card, driver license, birth certificate - many many documents that proof - your sourname, your parents, or adress, or IP address

But that you would come up with DNA testing is kinda amazing on it's own xD
"I am not sure that kids mine....oh I know, let's get a ff14 family sub and see if he is!" xD xD xD

[Edax]

Nah, simple ID, school card, driver license, birth certificate - many many documents that proof - your sourname, your parents, or adress,

Having to hire agents to sort through government IDs for the sake of providing discounts is not a sound business decision.
Reasons:
1: It'd be a bureaucratic hassle
2: SE gains nothing from this

[HumanNinjaToo]

Nah, simple ID, school card, driver license, birth certificate - many many documents that proof - your sourname, your parents, or adress, or IP address

But that you would come up with DNA testing is kinda amazing on it's own xD
"I am not sure that kids mine....oh I know, let's get a ff14 family sub and see if he is!" xD xD xD

All those things can faked fairly easily. That's why I'm saying DNA testing is the only legitimate way of proving relations. Even living in the same house doesn't prove you're related. Lots of pro gamer teams share housing. Plus, I'm not giving any of my personal documents to a gaming company, and I don't think many people would want to do that.

[Akonyl]

All those things can faked fairly easily. That's why I'm saying DNA testing is the only legitimate way of proving relations. Even living in the same house doesn't prove you're related. Lots of pro gamer teams share housing. Plus, I'm not giving any of my personal documents to a gaming company, and I don't think many people would want to do that.

DNA's still pretty bad, because it has the unfortunate effect of singling out families with adopted children too. There probably aren't any good ways to do this that SE would ever care to do, really.

[HumanNinjaToo]

DNA's still pretty bad, because it has the unfortunate effect of singling out families with adopted children too. There probably aren't any good ways to do this that SE would ever care to do, really.

Exactly, there is no way to make this work effectively, which is most likely why it's 2019 and has never been implemented in any long-term business models for subscription services.

The exception being cellular service plans. And even though they are called family plans, you don't have to be family, you just agree to let one person pay the bill for everyone on the plan.

[Enla]

I understand that some would want to take advantage of it, hence why I suggested that this could be bound to a few possibilities:
1st - proven relationship - it is not illegal to prove your relationship, it is only illegal to store such data, it's same as with banking, crypto wallets and otehr financial pages, where you have to prove your identity.
2nd - connection only under the same IP adress, this would prevent to sell such an account to others, as your family would count only to those living under the same roof.

I know it would be a lot of work, but it might be worth some brainstorming
Also about limitation, I think 3-4 should be somewhat a max amount that can be bound as family.

But hey, just thinking out loud

Only place this would work is Korea which requires it's residents to have some form of identification number to access many online services, though from what I read to double check the veracity of that even that's kinda falling out of use due to some hacking incidents which exposed a lot of people's RRN's because the companies /were/ storing them. (There's also i-Pin but I need to do more reading.) You can't trust companies not to mess up on something like that either, as just recently the ESA got in trouble when the private information of the journalists that attended E3 for many years were leaked. Even companies who should know better, will do it.

IP numbers can also be spoofed pretty easily, so that isn't gonna work either sadly.

I def understand where you're coming from and it'd be a nice thing to have, but it's way too easy to exploit and the alternatives to making it 'fair' are ripe for abuse in regards to people's private data.