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    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by JowyAtreides View Post
    I love the PS4 non-parse life every time I read one of these threads.
    thing is... there might still be parses from you on- & offline - I thought the same for a while "idc cause im on ps4" but be aware that people in pugs also use act and are pretty well aware about "your" performance. u can still disable your char on fflogs but than again people will start ignoring you in these discussions - cause noone who stands to his performance would disable the loggs to talk about everyone else numbers but not their own.

    the whole tool is the cancer... good for theorycrafters bad for everyone who defines or judges people with the outcome - an outcome most of them don't understand at all and that is causing all these flat "arguments" why or why not jobs/player will be kicked or locked out in the first place.


    @topic:

    coming to the forum saying:
    "I got kicked with 9.7 to 10k dps....?"
    while a simple look at your logs shows:
    but your aDPS are not nearly 9.7 to 10k but up to 2k less on your E1s and E2s clears, with two out of those three logs are grey while the third's just barely green. you missed two "Double Standard Finish" which is an potency lost of 1000 each and got one "Single Technical Finish" instead of a Quadruple which is an potency lost of 750.
    is like... yeah I saw numbers... but I dont understand them... – people on fflogs dig deep... so if u use parses for argumentation u have to understand them first - people can see way more than just your numbers they can see everything from your firstskill to your last skill... they can rebuild your rotation and compare it with the "given" one by the community. they can see uptime and when and how often you used certain skills. all factors to judge if your welcome or not... and most important they can see if u tell the truth.
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    Last edited by Neela; 08-14-2019 at 12:06 AM.

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    JowyAtreides's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neela View Post
    thing is... there might still be parses from you on- & offline - I thought the same for a while "idc cause im on ps4" but be aware that people in pugs also use act and are pretty well aware about "your" performance. u can still disable your char on fflogs but than again people will start ignoring you in these discussions - cause noone who stands to his performance would disable the loggs to talk about everyone else numbers but not their own.

    the whole tool is the cancer... good for theorycrafters bad for everyone who defines or judges people with the outcome.
    I have no doubt and I have indeed ventured onto one of the sites and seen I've been in the odd party every now and again who was using it. That being said, I don't use it myself, I don't judge myself on it, I don't judge others on it.

    Maybe my opinion would be different if I did savage content while it is still relevant (I'm usually a patch arc behind, or not at all), but as you say, the whole tool is indeed cancer, for the entire reason of this thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by JowyAtreides View Post
    Maybe my opinion would be different if I did savage content while it is still relevant (I'm usually a patch arc behind, or not at all), but as you say, the whole tool is indeed cancer, for the entire reason of this thread
    Well, it depends on what you are doing with it. The thing is, if you never look at the numbers you can't see what you're missing. You may think you're doing just fine because you get your clear and all but you never know how your performance really was until you look it up. And that is also the only way you can improve by checking what you are doing wrong or what you could do better.

    True, people may also look at those numbers and may kick you out of a group. Especially in content like brand new Savage stages at minimum item-level, where DPS is a real issue and even if you do all the mechanics correctly and noone dies you may still see the enrage if the DPS is not high enough.
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    Last edited by Pepsi_Plunge; 08-13-2019 at 06:44 PM.
    Pepsis Eorzea-Tagebuch:
    https://de.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/22850747/blog/


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    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepsi_Plunge View Post
    Especially in content like brand new Savage stages at minimum item-level, where DPS is a real issue and even if you do all the mechanics correctly and noone dies you may still see the enrage if the DPS is not high enough.
    this ^

    we replaced 2 DDs this tier - 2 veteran left and 2 Leafs which never were in savage or ex-primals before joined. 1st week they got used to the speed of encounter and fix positions/mechanics. 2nd week mechanics were clear but we couldn't pass the enrage with our 450 blue gear sets. Week 3 we organized crafted gear parts with overmelts, the usage of lvl8 materia and pots. We were able to clear it super close to enrage. Sure uptime & rotations are far from maximum but sometimes it is indeed the gear which make a difference - our Brd f.e did roughly 1k more just by gear & pots. Although at the same time everybody knows its the easiest excuse to take if u lack in other areas...
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    Last edited by Neela; 08-13-2019 at 09:47 PM.