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    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    You appear to be under the mistaken impression that the game has only normal dungeons and savage raids.
    Seeing as anything that isn't savage basically falls under 'normal', I don't see that being an issue.

    Extreme, Alliance, Hard are all variations of 'normal end game content', and I doubt anyone's popping immunities in Ultimate just to get a few DPS GCDs when it doesn't also net a significant mitigation gain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Seeing as anything that isn't savage basically falls under 'normal', I don't see that being an issue.

    Extreme, Alliance, Hard are all variations of 'normal end game content', and I doubt anyone's popping immunities in Ultimate just to get a few DPS GCDs when it doesn't also net a significant mitigation gain.
    And you would be mistaken in that regard. There are numerous instances of fights, even in different savage modes, where a viable course of action was for tanks to blow their immunities just for the sake of letting everyone go hard on DPS for the duration. It's been considered a perfectly acceptable cheese strat for dealing with tight enrage timers for a very, very long time. Obviously some fights have mechanics that prevent tanks from "wasting" their big cooldowns like that, but the ones that didn't saw some pretty routine abuse.

    Anywho, getting back to the original topic: The main reason I say the suggested ability may not be regarded the same as other tank immunities is the fact that it would actually be "killable." Giving it a set HP pool, even a particularly massive one, would in effect make it a much more powerful version of TBN. Granted I still think the idea is actually pretty cool, and I would actually love to see them actually implement it. Not every tank needs a full on lolimmunity. Something like this would be strong enough to work but different enough to be unique. The fact that TBN itself usually prevents the application of status effects by abilities that don't break it would give them precedence for the simulacrum also not allowing the DRK to be afflicted by debuffs that aren't applied by an effect that completely break it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    Not every tank needs a full on lolimmunity. .
    This is the inspiration for it. I'm generally of the opinion that immunities largely harm tank design instead of enhancing it, as it creates a rather pointed area of obvious disparity that they frankly cannot make up for elsewhere. Imagine the outcry of Paladins getting their potency dumpstered because they have Hallowed Ground.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    This is the inspiration for it. I'm generally of the opinion that immunities largely harm tank design instead of enhancing it, as it creates a rather pointed area of obvious disparity that they frankly cannot make up for elsewhere. Imagine the outcry of Paladins getting their potency dumpstered because they have Hallowed Ground.
    I can agree with this. I can understand giving them some sort of extremely short-lived immunity that prevents a killing blow and bumps them back up to like 25% HP as an absolute last resort in the event of something going terribly awry, but giving access to an on-demand immunity that lasts for 8+ seconds is definitely several steps too far.
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