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    NekoNova's Avatar
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    Olivar Starblaze
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    • The RNG factor in crafting. Shit's already hard enough to get crafted, really don't need RNGesus to help me fail at them
    • The housing situation on pretty much every server
    • People that feel the need to comment because you're not adhering to their standard
    • Inventory management
    • The interface : everything needs to be done in specific steps, e.g can't perform an action while in crafting mode etc.
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    Olivar Starblaze
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoNova View Post
    The RNG factor in crafting. Shit's already hard enough to get crafted, really don't need RNGesus to help me fail at them
    This for all eternity. There's a reason why crafting feels so high stress, and the RNG is the culprit. It's also why I really dislike regular fishing, there's not many ways you can manipulate things into your favor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoNova View Post
    The RNG factor in crafting. Shit's already hard enough to get crafted, really don't need RNGesus to help me fail at them
    As much as I see people saying this, it's really only an issue if you're trying to craft items with absolute bare minimum required.

    If properly geared not even the latest ShB crafts have a meaningful amount of RNG involved with them aside from getting a Reuse proc.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 08-12-2019 at 09:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    As much as I see people saying this, it's really only an issue if you're trying to craft items with absolute bare minimum required.

    If properly geared not even the latest ShB crafts have a meaningful amount of RNG involved with them aside from getting a Reuse proc.

    I am crafting heavensward Wyvern Leather, I have the best possible gear at the moment that I can wear/craft on my crafters.
    Getting a HQ crafted is pure RNG, because I need all touches to succeed and/or get at least a good proc on Byregot.
    Anything else is not a guaranteed HQ craft.
    And that's with materia's melded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoNova View Post
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    It's probably because the way you are approching craft. Don't take it bad, I'm not moking. Here are a few tips I can give:

    While you are in levelling phase, the best approach is to do tribes craft quests and challenge log for a main crafter that will lead your levelling for other crafts. In other words :

    One crafter : tribes craft quest (mog, at your level, if I'm right) + challenge log + compagny deliveries (don't bother with hq if you can't make them, especially without HQ components it's too rng to worth it)

    The mogs are bothering to unlock but really it worth it for xp.

    For other crafters as soon as you can craft easily with one class:
    until you reach 50 : Ixalis
    50-60 : mogs + custom deliveries
    60-70 : namazu + custom deliveries
    70+ : Crystarium (the hall) deliveries

    Any level : compagny deliveries, challenge log

    When you have time for them : Leves
    Leveling phase there are some on mostly all maps and cities
    At your level 50-60, it should be Ishgard

    Only when you reach 50/60/70/80 you can invest time and gils for craft stuff (medium gears 55/65/75 can be a bonus but all others are skippable).
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    Last edited by Eldevern; 08-12-2019 at 04:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldevern View Post
    It's probably because the way you are approching craft. Don't take it bad, I'm not moking. Here are a few tips I can give:

    While you are in levelling phase, the best approach is to do tribes craft quests and challenge log for a main crafter that will lead your levelling for other crafts. In other words :

    One crafter : tribes craft quest (mog, at your level, if I'm right) + challenge log + compagny deliveries (don't bother with hq if you can't make them, especially without HQ components it's too rng to worth it)

    The mogs are bothering to unlock but really it worth it for xp.

    For other crafters as soon as you can craft easily with one class:
    until you reach 50 : Ixalis
    50-60 : mogs + custom deliveries
    60-70 : namazu + custom deliveries
    70+ : Crystarium (the hall) deliveries

    Any level : compagny deliveries, challenge log

    When you have time for them : Leves
    Leveling phase there are some on mostly all maps and cities
    At your level 50-60, it should be Ishgard

    Only when you reach 50/60/70/80 you can invest time and gils for craft stuff (medium gears 55/65/75 can be a bonus but all others are skippable).

    That's nice if you want to power through them yes, but that's not my intended playstyle for crafting.
    It's not impossible to HQ every item at level I'm doing, but it sure as heck isn't easy
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoNova View Post
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    I understand that point, for sure RNG is not skill...

    Well you make me conclude I can add something that annoyes me : RNG XD


    Things that annoy me :

    When Khloe book suggests a content my alt can't do since there's no way to unlock a content 10 levels higher than my level -_- I'm not mad at it, just it feels kinda wtf
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