Do you shame people for their choice of materia melds?

[RareItems]

"Not to mention all the 3rd Party Apps pretty much playing the game for you."

Then why can't you do savage then? You said you didn't want to put in the "time" and "effort".

As a Savage raider I can tell you that no one has an app that plays the game for them. That doesn't exist. Now I am certain you are a troll and will be blacklisting you in game to avoid seeing more of this nonsense. It'll be a little awkward, given that we're in the same FC. But oh well.

TLDR: Not sure why you hate Savage raiders, but you do you love

Why don't you ask your fellow raiders about it? I'm sure at least one of them knows what i'm talking about xD. Unless all 8 of you are PS4 Players.

As for the "Why can't you do Savage?" question? Simple, its a pointless waste of time and effort lol. Eureka was a better content than savage/ex Trials since majority of the playerbase can access it anytime they want with no restrictions. MSQ roullete is more rewarding than doing Savage content xD.

There is literally no reason to get Savage Gear. The only content where Savage gear is useful is Savage. The freebie Eden Normal/Crafted Ilvl450 gear/ilvl440 Goetia gear is good enough for all casual content.

[Gwenorai]

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The hilarity here is that they more than likely have some deep hatred for raiders because they have seen some who come across as elitist and toxic, yet fail to realise the only person I've seen in this thread being toxic and an overall waste of time to talk to is them. Projection and all that. I don't know, it will sink in eventually. All in all, they're not worth engaging in. Unless they're trolling, then this is some top quality bait.

[RareItems]

They seem to have missed the point I was making as well. Time and effort cannot be the case if people have apps playing the game for them. Since they do not have these things, time and effort are needed.... because it is difficult content.

It's like a layman chewing out a professional Football player about how what they do is easy and anyone can do it. (But they don't because reasons) It's kinda cute at first, but quickly gets old.

Not everyone who plays FFXIV considers Savage/Ex Trials as endgame content. Even FFXIV Dev's know that, that's why they made Relic Weapons/Eureka/Hunt system.

Savage and Ex Trail content to me, is like the Majhong content in FFXIV. It's there, it's optional, you don't have to play it lol.

Plus all the Tryhard Emo's in this game are in the Raiding scene lol. Can you imagine ppl saying they're hardcore because they've beaten an AI opponent? lol. Maybe if you did it on a PS4 i might give you a clap lol.

The OP of this thread should read all the replies and see it for himself. Raiders are the cancer of this game, they think they can dictate what melds i should put on my gear and if i call them out for it suddenly they're all foaming in the mouth and coming out of the Woodwork like this Kasumi guy xD.

Elitist Raider: Direct Hit is the best Meld for Tanks, Tenacity is a waste of a meld, I have more respect for you if you did not meld anything at all.

Casual Player: But i don't even raid, i just do Expert Roulletes with 3 random people

Elitist Raider: It doesnt matter, Tenacity is Trash, If you meld Tenacity your going to get shamed and called a noob, GL getting a static with those melds, the parser only reads Damage Dealt, nobody cares about Damage Mitigated!


Seriously, SE needs to change Direct Hit so it has no effect if your job is a Tank lol. That should help all the confused tanks who think they're a 3rd DPS.

[HyoMinPark]

Not everyone who plays FFXIV considers Savage/Ex Trials as endgame content. Even FFXIV Dev's know that, that's why they made Relic Weapons/Eureka/Hunt system.

Savage and Ex Trail content to me, is like the Majhong content in FFXIV. It's there, it's optional, you don't have to play it lol.

Plus all the Tryhard Emo's in this game are in the Raiding scene lol. Can you imagine ppl saying they're hardcore because they've beaten an AI opponent? lol. Maybe if you did it on a PS4 i might give you a clap lol.

The OP of this thread should read all the replies and see it for himself. Raiders are the cancer of this game, they think they can dictate what melds i should put on my gear and if i call them out for it suddenly they're all foaming in the mouth and coming out of the Woodwork like this Kasumi guy xD.

Elitist Raider: Direct Hit is the best Meld for Tanks, Tenacity is a waste of a meld, I have more respect for you if you did not meld anything at all.

Casual Player: But i don't even raid, i just do Expert Roulletes with 3 random people

Elitist Raider: It doesnt matter, Tenacity is Trash, If you meld Tenacity your going to get shamed and called a noob, GL getting a static with those melds, the parser only reads Damage Dealt, nobody cares about Damage Mitigated!


Seriously, SE needs to change Direct Hit so it has no effect if your job is a Tank lol. That should help all the confused tanks who think they're a 3rd DPS.

Idk which to quote so I'll just quote this one.

Who peed in your cereal this morning? I don't know what you have against raiders, but I think the only toxic/elitist individual in this conversation right now isn't them.

I'd say if raiders/theorycrafters thought Tenacity was a worthwhile stat compared to their other options, they'd have BiS sets with it melded. That said, whatever benefit it gives is outweighed by the benefit of the other substats. Hence why it goes largely ignored when it comes to optimization. No one cares if you want to meld it for dungeons, but people that want to optimize will not meld suboptimal stats. That defeats the purpose of optimization. And I really don't understand what's it to you what other people meld.

It's also quite funny how you go on about how "ugly" or "worthless" the "dye-able glamours" from Savage are when you've stated in the past you want them available from normal mode.

[WaterShield]

Idk which to quote so I'll just quote this one.

Who peed in your cereal this morning? I don't know what you have against raiders, but I think the only toxic/elitist individual in this conversation right now isn't them.

I'd say if raiders/theorycrafters thought Tenacity was a worthwhile stat compared to their other options, they'd have BiS sets with it melded. That said, whatever benefit it gives is outweighed by the benefit of the other substats. Hence why it goes largely ignored when it comes to optimization. No one cares if you want to meld it for dungeons, but people that want to optimize will not meld suboptimal stats. That defeats the purpose of optimization. And I really don't understand what's it to you what other people meld.

It's also quite funny how you go on about how "ugly" or "worthless" the "dye-able glamours" from Savage are when you've stated in the past you want them available from normal mode.

Hiiii o/

Gratz on the Titan clear btw (my group's at 30% ^.^)

On topic: Tenacity is just kind of a waste. It does less than every other substat, and you don't need melds at all outside of hard content soooo IDK why people like to preach the power of tenacity.

"It's also quite funny how you go on about how "ugly" or "worthless" the "dye-able glamours" from Savage are when you've stated in the past you want them available from normal mode."

I tend to believe they want the rewards without the effort. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[HyoMinPark]

Hiiii o/

Gratz on the Titan clear btw (my group's at 30% ^.^)

On topic: Tenacity is just kind of a waste. It does less than every other substat, and you don't need melds at all outside of hard content soooo IDK why people like to preach the power of tenacity.

I tend to believe they want the rewards without the effort. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Hello!

Thank you! ^^ And good luck to you on your clear! Prepare your healers for a lot of healing in the last phase!

And yeah, I don’t really understand the defense either. It would be nice if it was a worthwhile stat, but that would require the developers to make it scale into something worthwhile. As it stands, though, I think this person is just arguing for the sake of arguing at this point.

And I wouldn’t doubt this in the least.