Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Dogempire]

my friend and I did a leveling roulette last night with me as BRD and him as WHM. I was a bit shocked to see that we got the lv71 dungeon from leveling, think it's the first time this expansion that leveling has stuck me in one of the newer dungeons. We got a WAR and MCH for the rest of the party and we do big pulls and burn things down like we should be doing, no problems. But I loved this MCH, as a former healer main they made my little healer heart skip a beat. On the second boss my friend put down Asylum and I watched the MCH move into the bubble. I had no words, people know that the bubbles do good things?!

One of my favorite things about bubbles is that when you take raidwide damage you can just step into one to regen health, just like a health fountain. Though sometimes I wish healers would just leave it there instead of casting heals so that they can just let the regen tick and not waste mp on the Medica.

[SturmChurro]

Yes because being a few levels behind on your weapon even with level relevant dungeon gear obviously means being a burden on the party, nevermind the fact that I do better dps than a vast majority of the playerbase even with slightly worse gear.

How will I live not being able to push 99th percentile dps on Brayflox just because my weapon is 1 attack stat lower than the HQ level equivalent one, oh no.

I mean seriously, nobody with a functioning brain thinks someone who's 1 or 2 weapon damage behind from the level equivalent weapon will be a burden on freaking leveling dungeons but the type who have only 200k gil to their name and complain that they're broke a lot because they drop 200k+ gil on gear on the MB every 2 levels.

Let me spell this out simply, dungeon gear is free, dungeon weapon drops are free, GC gear is (Mostly) free, 200k weapons on the MB are not free and are a waste of money. Doesn't matter if you massage a camel and then give its owner a backrub for 200k gil, that weapon is not free.

I don't understand what you are arguing here. The weaopon specifically? Past the first 80 you would have already sold all of the coffer gear, or potentially used it. Augmented scaevan is viable through qitana ravel, and the weapon is viable until Malikah's well (augmented scaevan should ALWAYS have at least - takes one MSQ to earn enough).

If you are leveling now, 60-80 you would do enough dungeons to keep up to date, and it's more than likely you would get a weapon upgrade somewhere in between for each 10 levels, plus you can greed while leveling one class and get weapons for another. My machinist not getting one was a rarity, I also did not upgrade it's weapon either from 60-70. Why waste so many posts? Are you not using dungeon gear? Just arguing on principle?

For an example, in my inventory I have each planisphere from 75-79, and my AST is only 67. Weapons actually aren't that rare.

[Hawklaser]

Yes because being a few levels behind on your weapon even with level relevant dungeon gear obviously means being a burden on the party, nevermind the fact that I do better dps than a vast majority of the playerbase even with slightly worse gear.

Heres the rub though, the ones skimping on the gear don't usually have the skill to back it up.

Can a skilled player use augmented scaeven until they get the free JSE gear at 80 and not be a burden on the party? Absolutely.

Can the party know the person in Mt. Gulg in Scaeven has the skill to not be a burden? Not really.

In a way showing up with the appropriate gear is just being respectful to the other party members, and keeps things from being focused on you needlessly when things do go wrong. So going into a dungeon without the appropriate gear is a way of telling the rest of the group you have little to no respect for their time.

Just think about what is easier to spot for most when problems crop up. Outdated gear, or someone not doing their rotations right?

So if you think you are skilled enough to rock outdated gear for a while, better hope things go smooth enough to finish or can convince the party the issue is elsewhere when problems do come up.

[Silver-Strider]

I don't understand what you are arguing here. The weaopon specifically? Past the first 80 you would have already sold all of the coffer gear, or potentially used it. Augmented scaevan is viable through qitana ravel, and the weapon is viable until Malikah's well (augmented scaevan should ALWAYS have at least - takes one MSQ to earn enough).

If you are leveling now, 60-80 you would do enough dungeons to keep up to date, and it's more than likely you would get a weapon upgrade somewhere in between for each 10 levels, plus you can greed while leveling one class and get weapons for another. My machinist not getting one was a rarity, I also did not upgrade it's weapon either from 60-70. Why waste so many posts? Are you not using dungeon gear? Just arguing on principle?

For an example, in my inventory I have each planisphere from 75-79, and my AST is only 67. Weapons actually aren't that rare.

My SCH went from 70-80 without a SINGLE weapon drop for him from a dungeon at all. I grinded my MNK, WHM, AST AND SCH all to 80 without a single, solitary SCH weapon dropping at all. Never underestimate how bad RNG can truly be.

[SturmChurro]

Heres the rub though, the ones skimping on the gear don't usually have the skill to back it up.

Can a skilled player use augmented scaeven until they get the free JSE gear at 80 and not be a burden on the party? Absolutely.

Can the party know the person in Mt. Gulg in Scaeven has the skill to not be a burden? Not really.

In a way showing up with the appropriate gear is just being respectful to the other party members, and keeps things from being focused on you needlessly when things do go wrong. So going into a dungeon without the appropriate gear is a way of telling the rest of the group you have little to no respect for their time.

Just think about what is easier to spot for most when problems crop up. Outdated gear, or someone not doing their rotations right?

So if you think you are skilled enough to rock outdated gear for a while, better hope things go smooth enough to finish or can convince the party the issue is elsewhere when problems do come up.

I know for a fact I'm not a burden, unless I am playing AST, apparently I am actually really bad at it, but I do keep up in gear at least. As samurai in malikah's well I was most definitely carrying the dps by a large margin, I just have a feeling. Threat is a good indicator now right?

My SCH went from 70-80 without a SINGLE weapon drop for him from a dungeon at all. I grinded my MNK, WHM, AST AND SCH all to 80 without a single, solitary SCH weapon dropping at all. Never underestimate how bad RNG can truly be.

That hurts. Books of both varieties I see drop WAY too much. Did you greed drops on weapons for classes you planned on leveling later?

[Silver-Strider]

That hurts. Books of both varieties I see drop WAY too much. Did you greed drops on weapons for classes you planned on leveling later?

I've greeded on every weapon that drops for classes that aren't already Maxed out. I have level 75 weapons for nearly all classes with a handful of 77s as well. My SCH just got unrealistically bad RNG as every book that would drop was a SMN one and not a SCH one.

[savageink]

my friend and I did a leveling roulette last night with me as BRD and him as WHM. I was a bit shocked to see that we got the lv71 dungeon from leveling, think it's the first time this expansion that leveling has stuck me in one of the newer dungeons. We got a WAR and MCH for the rest of the party and we do big pulls and burn things down like we should be doing, no problems. But I loved this MCH, as a former healer main they made my little healer heart skip a beat. On the second boss my friend put down Asylum and I watched the MCH move into the bubble. I had no words, people know that the bubbles do good things?!

I always try to get in the bubble if it's in a good place. If the only safe place to stand is tankside, I'm pretty sure any benefits are going away if my squishy MCH gets hit in the face with a tankbuster.

[Dogempire]

I don't understand what you are arguing here. The weaopon specifically? Past the first 80 you would have already sold all of the coffer gear, or potentially used it. Augmented scaevan is viable through qitana ravel, and the weapon is viable until Malikah's well (augmented scaevan should ALWAYS have at least - takes one MSQ to earn enough).

If you are leveling now, 60-80 you would do enough dungeons to keep up to date, and it's more than likely you would get a weapon upgrade somewhere in between for each 10 levels, plus you can greed while leveling one class and get weapons for another. My machinist not getting one was a rarity, I also did not upgrade it's weapon either from 60-70. Why waste so many posts? Are you not using dungeon gear? Just arguing on principle?

For an example, in my inventory I have each planisphere from 75-79, and my AST is only 67. Weapons actually aren't that rare.

2 weapons drop per dungeon, giving you about a 1 in 8.5 chance of getting the weapon of your class considering there are 17 jobs.

Statistically speaking about 90% of the time you'll get the drop within 17 clears, 17 clears mind you, and there's still the 10% chance that you can do 17 dungeons and still never see said weapon, making it kind of hard to keep your weapon up to date without spending gil on one of the overpriced marketboard ones.

Dungeon gear itself isn't rng since you're guaranteed a piece every clear, but the weapons are a different story.

[Pepsi_Plunge]

On the second boss my friend put down Asylum and I watched the MCH move into the bubble. I had no words, people know that the bubbles do good things?!

Once I had to rescue a BRD into my bubble because even with low health they were literally just standing right next to it, refusing to step in.

[Skyclaw726]

Why do i get the feeling that the majority of the past 100 pages has just been a series of 2-3 people going back and forth over very minor things...