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  1. #131
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    Flan Vongola
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    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    I didn’t have very high expectations honestly so I can’t say I’m disappointed.

    It was really disheartening to see how the treated they question about Bard’s feeling like they don’t have much real ‘support’ left (the defining point of job according to SE and lore) though, they basically just groaned, said something about how it has good DPS, then moved on as if it was a pointless question. And honestly, maybe it’s a little harsh but I don’t believe their addendum about ‘we’re listening to player feedback for a second. Because if they were they would’ve realised nobody was asking for Bard to become a high DPS / low utility job in the first place and I’m pretty sure most people didn't start playing Bard to be the top DPS anyway (at least I didnt’). The worst part was that I was completely expecting them to say ‘Bard has high DPS so it can’t get any more support’, but it didn’t feel any less dismissive watching them do it live.

    I’m not saying they should be more ‘considerate’, but at the same time it sucks to see them be completely dismissive of a question that didn’t even address the concern the majority of Bards have (identity issues). Had they even just said like, ‘we understand people feel like Bard has lost its identity/support/defining abilities, but we feel satisfied with how it is right now’ - or something along those lines - it would’ve at least been much easier to swallow

    Ultimately, it felt like they talked about Bard because they felt they ‘had to’, not because they wanted to address anyone’s concerns. And I can see why it would feel like that in regards to other questions too
    Bard always had an identity crisis. Bard always had those utility skills and in Stormblood even more DPS than Machinist (the other phys. ranged DPS lower in DPS and almost nothing contributing to the group).
    In Heavensward Bard turned into a caster being the most clunky job ever.
    Im wondering, why they dont change bard into a second support instead so bards can support the group like dancers do. Maybe they miss feedback, they might change their mind?

    edit:
    Also about healers, I doubt they will do any major changes in 5.x. I actually expect (or at least hope for) a revamp of the healer jobs. I do not want to miss the chance to see new "ways" of healing the party. Necromancer (as a Healer), Melee Healer or actually fix the gameplay of current healers and add a bit more spice to their dps kits. Maybe they'll come up with better ideas by 6.0...
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    Last edited by xbahax92; 08-09-2019 at 06:56 AM.

  2. #132
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunavi View Post
    ... if tome gear this tier didn't look so bad for casters you basically NEED to glam (seriously, who thought it was a good idea to give casters MAIL gear?!?)
    i glamour things all the time, so this resentment (for lack of a less dramatic word) of being "forced" to glamour seems totally upside down to me. I have set outfits and the appearance of "this tier" doesn't even matter, unless it's nice enough that I want to use it.

    And considering how much some people complain about "nothing but robes" for mages... mail is an interesting change, and it doesn't stray that far from normal robes either. I think it looks better in the healer colour scheme, but still.

    When we have freedom to glamour any past outfits onto our current equipment, I think it's more important to work in some different and unusual designs to give people more choice. Not every tier, but some of the time.
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  3. #133
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    Luna Nattvind
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    i glamour things all the time, so this resentment (for lack of a less dramatic word) of being "forced" to glamour seems totally upside down to me. I have set outfits and the appearance of "this tier" doesn't even matter, unless it's nice enough that I want to use it.

    And considering how much some people complain about "nothing but robes" for mages... mail is an interesting change, and it doesn't stray that far from normal robes either. I think it looks better in the healer colour scheme, but still.

    When we have freedom to glamour any past outfits onto our current equipment, I think it's more important to work in some different and unusual designs to give people more choice. Not every tier, but some of the time.
    I too glam most of the time, however, when the gear we are "supposed" to wear breaks class fantasy to such an extreme as a caster wearing mail, I start to question things. It really seems more like something that should be a glam for those who want it rather than something to glam upon.
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  4. #134
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunavi View Post
    I too glam most of the time, however, when the gear we are "supposed" to wear breaks class fantasy to such an extreme as a caster wearing mail, I start to question things. It really seems more like something that should be a glam for those who want it rather than something to glam upon.
    The gear designers can't win then. Other people complain bitterly about how we never get anything but "class fantasy" robes (somehow overlooking the tunics, swimwear, and occasional weird strappy things). Healers have the semi-armoured Daystar set.

    Singling out this still-robe-like armour seems strange. And nobody is going to care what you're wearing underneath your glamour.
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  5. #135
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post


    They answer these questions so people can complain. That must be it.
    Well sorry it bothers you but people had legitimate questions regarding healers, and other concerning good questions I might add with alot of likes. I don't mind the devs having fun, But Yoshi P choose the safest questions to ask and disregard the other answers.
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  6. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    The gear designers can't win then. Other people complain bitterly about how we never get anything but "class fantasy" robes (somehow overlooking the tunics, swimwear, and occasional weird strappy things). Healers have the semi-armoured Daystar set.

    Singling out this still-robe-like armour seems strange. And nobody is going to care what you're wearing underneath your glamour.
    The problem is that tome gear is the "default" gear. I would be 100% happy if this was a glam item that was crafted or obtained through other means. Since the dawn of time, casters have never exactly been known to wear mail, which is where my main concern rests. It doesn't feel like caster gear, but more like melee DPS gear. I know that some people have asked for this, but to make it the main gear of the patch is a questionable choice in my opinion. When I think about it further though, maybe the gear could make sense for a Red Mage?
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  7. #137
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    Nighthawky Mlmlxix
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesarthim View Post
    When sandwich questions have more priority than healer questions you know something isn't right. Yes the context of the question is "funny" but your main role being basically ignored is not.
    i totally agree. With a plethera of good questions that were asked, the stupid MEOL question was picked & answered...SHM!!
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  8. #138
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jkap_Goat View Post
    Why did they answer about Meol? Like...out of all the questions asked, you ask about that ...?
    i totally agree. Its bad enough someone asked about MEOL but its even worse to have picked the MEOL question & then answer it when there were so many viable good questions that were asked...SMH!!
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  9. #139
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    Just my opinion
    But when they announce the Q & A Live Letter & to post your questions:
    1. The thread should have ran from 7/25 - 8/1 & closed it.
    2. Have staff to go through the questions, categorizing them by JOBS, TRUST SYSTEM, QoL, etc.
    3. Look at same questions that were frequently asked by community. I seen alot of questions regarding the Trust, Blue Mage, squadrons, specific jobs, etc
    4. From 8/1 - 8/6, had the staff pick good viable questions that the community would have been pleased to have answered.

    Out of hundreds of questions, having 70 good viable questions from many categories would have been the way to go.

    MEOL question...REALLY?1? The fact it was picked & answered...SMDH!!!
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  10. #140
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    Barraind Faylestar
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    The live letter process is always odd, and they always answer awful, joke questions that nobody needs, wants or expects an answer to, and ignore a lot of the "we really want to know" ones.

    That they encouraged people to thumbs-up questions to get visibility and to cut down on redundancy, then ignore an overwhelming majority of ones that were upvoted...


    They need to come up with a better system.

    The weirdest one to me is the dye colors one.

    Did you come up with some absurdly complex new way to handle color options for 14 thats strictly worse than the way any other system in existence handles it? Cause its a pretty straightforward process.
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    Last edited by Barraind; 08-09-2019 at 04:10 AM.

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