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    Haprimac's Avatar
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    Fjrwn Ymir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    1) No, that's not at all what they said. What they said is that hairstyles will be unique to Viera/Hrothgar, due to the way they were implemented. That doesn't mean they can't make Hrothgar/Viera versions of existing hairstyles.
    I hope you're correct. Would suck balls if I'd never have access to the hairstyles I've farmed MGP/wolf marks (+events) etc. for. :C
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    To be fair, plate armor is unisex because it's built to be practical and bulky (they could use more exposed skin sometimes tho), a pink, white or gold "robe" full of ribbons, frills, and occasional exposed back/boob window with matching heels is definitely not unisex. Eden is the most recent example of male healers treated like they don't exist.
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    Last edited by Allegor; 08-08-2019 at 10:25 AM.

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    Regana Redwyne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    To be fair, plate armor is unisex because it's built to be practical and bulky (they could use more exposed skin sometimes tho), a pink, white or gold "robe" full of ribbons, frills, and occasional exposed back/boob window with matching heels is definitely not unisex. Eden is the most recent example of male healers treated like they don't exist.
    This is a good point about Eden. But at the same time, there are other WHM outfits you can glam on to the current gear instead that are not heels and feminine. They aren't always. And women have the same issue, often. Finding what I consider to be elegant axes is a pain for me, for example. But some exist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    We'll just have to agree to disagree on that. I wasn't solely referring to glamour options, either, I was speaking in regards to a lot of factors and design decisions over the years as well as a dismissive attitude towards questions detailing male customisation options.

    That Highlander men cannot have proper eyebrows but the women can is but one example of what I am getting at.

    Historically a lot of those who say it isn't an issue gravitate towards playing female characters for the most part, too. Usually either exclusively or at least more often than they play a male character. That isn't a dig at you, specifically, but just something I've observed over the years.
    Fair enough. I didn't know eyebrows are a problem for highlander males. I do know I had to add the extra eyebrows from the facial features (?) section to make my own look what I think is decent. So I can empathize, but that again is an example of a female also having the issue. But yeah, agreeing to disagree.
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    Last edited by Alleluia; 08-08-2019 at 11:04 AM.

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    Cassandria Everfree
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    I asked a very safe question about hiding damage numbers from other players on a mob. Still got ignored. Was disappointed myself.
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    Oniwori Kiyuromi
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    Soon as I saw the poster I knew it would be about them not saying anything about male viera lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alleluia View Post
    Oh, they are not. Both genders have things that don't flatter them. Lots of WHM robes on guys look ridiculous and lots of tank armor on gals look ludicrously bulky. Each gender and subrace has hairstyles to fit your look and ones you'll hate.

    At least male characters don't have to run around in miniskirts showing off their underwear till at least lvl 5 when they first start the game. I'd also bring up subligers, but I think those mortify both genders equally. But there's no development bias for or against male or female character models in this game.
    Have to agree with this.
    Females have a lot of stuff I don't like and would make me feel like males have it easy. Like....males get shorts I like but we skirts lol.
    Also if someone were to start as a viera, we have to stare at our asses because our racial gear is super fan service.
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    Last edited by xxvaynxx; 08-08-2019 at 12:04 PM.

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    Johanna Yevon
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxvaynxx View Post
    Soon as I saw the poster I knew it would be about them not saying anything about male viera lol.



    Have to agree with this.
    Females have a lot of stuff I don't like and would make me feel like males have it easy. Like....males get shorts I like but we skirts lol.
    Also if someone were to start as a viera, we have to stare at our asses because our racial gear is super fan service.
    With the Scion's Jacket, I liked the Males Tie, and I liked their pants. But as a Female character, I have to bloody deal with wearing an ugly Ascot and a Skirt.
    :x
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    Kaho Saionji
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    I support the addition of male Viera as a matter of principle, but the overzealousness from some diehard supporters is starting to get tiresome. I feel like the bunny suit folks from back then were a lot more amicable and respectful in the attempt to promote their cause. I wonder if that elezen dude is still around to enjoy the fruit of his labour. The point is; this "male Viera or we riot until we get it" attitude will have the opposite effect. The devs have stated their stance on this; give it time, be patient, and keep promoting the cause the right way. This "are we there yet? are we there yet?" won't help achieve your goal.

    More on topic: do we know how NG+ will work? Is this just a feature for people who wanted to re-live their FF14 experience or will it comes with great perks usually associated with NG+? Considering ARR MSQ will be trimmed in 5.3, does that mean we won't see this until then?
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    Jets Down
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Aeducan View Post
    I support the addition of male Viera as a matter of principle, but the overzealousness from some diehard supporters is starting to get tiresome. I feel like the bunny suit folks from back then were a lot more amicable and respectful in the attempt to promote their cause. I wonder if that elezen dude is still around to enjoy the fruit of his labour. The point is; this "male Viera or we riot until we get it" attitude will have the opposite effect. The devs have stated their stance on this; give it time, be patient, and keep promoting the cause the right way. This "are we there yet? are we there yet?" won't help achieve your goal.
    Starting? O_o it got tiresome ages ago and this is from someone who wants both male Viera and female Hrothgar.

    The current issues surrounding male Hrothgar and female Viera should be taking priority and i'm more bothered by them saying they are adding new hairstyles to Hrothgar but because they are tied to face and we have to use a fantasia to change it, meaning new hairstyles cost money for any current Hrothgar player which is discouraging :/
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    Chryden Speakel
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    How about we all chill and be happy about the information we got instead of crying about the thinks we didn't got?

    I'm happy about a lot of things he said, like that we will see more connected points between the source and the first.
    About more story related to the complete world and the explaining of the savage loot.
    Eureka will be adjusted and we can look forward for PvP changes.

    Today I know more about future updates then yesterday and that's all I wanted.
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    Aylaine Gray
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curisu View Post
    How about we all chill and be happy about the information we got instead of crying about the thinks we didn't got?

    I'm happy about a lot of things he said, like that we will see more connected points between the source and the first.
    About more story related to the complete world and the explaining of the savage loot.
    Eureka will be adjusted and we can look forward for PvP changes.

    Today I know more about future updates then yesterday and that's all I wanted.
    That's all fun and good, but on the flipside as a healer today I know absolutely nothing on what will be addressed in future updates, and that's not what I wanted.
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