Concerning BLM Buffs/Quality of Life (yes, you read that right)

[Kabooa]

I think he means in regards to rDPS, not pDPS. An rDPS char should have higher rDPS then a pDPS character, otherwise, whats the point in bringing rDPS characters?

It's a weird situation, isn't it? The kicker is that Black mage literally brings nothing else to the table. Same with Samurai. So when -they- get outclassed, they're literally pointless.

[Carstien]

No. What's the point of a glass cannon if -they aren't bringing the most of your Raw damage-?

Glass cannon? Do you even know what that means? There is no glass cannon in this game, BLMs take the same damage as other casters which is more physical but less magical than melee dps. You're not a glass cannon because you're not made of glass, not fragile, get it?

[Carstien]

It's a weird situation, isn't it? The kicker is that Black mage literally brings nothing else to the table. Same with Samurai. So when -they- get outclassed, they're literally pointless.

Thing is it isn't outclassed in its field, it's the highest rdps caster by a long long way. It's meta right now. Asking for buffs to a meta class is silly. I'm a MNK main and I honestly think our buffs were silly. We were already top of the pack with DRG and BLM, we didn't need buffs but 4 years of people whining about rof had an effect I guess. Now we need a nerf but BLM damn well doesn't need a buff.

[Kabooa]

Glass cannon? Do you even know what that means? There is no glass cannon in this game, BLMs take the same damage as other casters which is more physical but less magical than melee dps. You're not a glass cannon because you're not made of glass, not fragile, get it?

I meant to say turret.

Bad word choice on my part.

[Carstien]

Did not mean to single you out BTW. Just noticed both posts I quoted were the same person. Apologies.

[Kabooa]

Thing is it isn't outclassed in its field, it's the highest rdps caster by a long long way. It's meta right now. Asking for buffs to a meta class is silly. I'm a MNK main and I honestly think our buffs were silly. We were already top of the pack with DRG and BLM, we didn't need buffs but 4 years of people whining about rof had an effect I guess. Now we need a nerf but BLM damn well doesn't need a buff.

And if it wasn't, it'd be pointless.

But if it wasn't, it'd still be more than usable in savage, just like every other job.

If you aren't clearing savage, it's not because of the composition. Be you Black Mage, Monk, Bard, Dancer, or Ninja.

If a static is telling a ninja, summoner, or whatever, to change, I'll just say what's been told to everyone else before.

"Get a new static."

[Lunavi]

Totally agree with you, while BLM is in an OK spot right now, it could definitely help with getting a little bit of love on this department. By doing the thundercloud change alone BLM DPS could become so much more consistent and the off Sharpcast procs would actually feel valueable, especially their AoE would be greatly enhanced by this.

[Vendalwind]

It's a weird situation, isn't it? The kicker is that Black mage literally brings nothing else to the table. Same with Samurai. So when -they- get outclassed, they're literally pointless.

............In my post I literally just outlined why that wouldnt be the case.
If BLM rDPS at 75th Percentile and up is lower than rDPS focused utility classes then BLM will still ALWAYS have a place because its PERSONAL dps is necessary for the rDPS classes to reach their rDPS potential.

I'll say it again
When a Personal DPS class out does the rDPS of an rDPS class at top end play with its rDPS, the rDPS class is now worthless. ENTIRELY. it would be better to bring another Personal DPS class.
When an rDPS class out does the rDPS of a Personal DPS class at top play, the Personal DPS class is still mandatory and Needed for the rDPS class to hit the high ceiling. because bringing more rDPS classes would lower the overall damage potential despite their buffs stacking. Thus rDPS utility classes will ALWAYS need pure Personal DPS classes, but the inverse is not true.

Spouting that Personal Dps classes would lose their place if utility dps classes outdid them is just completely incorrect logic.

[Lunavi]

If rDPS classes cant achieve at top percentile MORE than pure dps classes then they are useless. The gapping should be something like 75th percentile up rDPS classes outdo pure DPS classes by a small margin. 50th-75th they are about equivalent and sub 50th pure DPS classes begin to do significantly more.

So you want BLM to go back to being a 100% useless job that no one wants to bring to content ever like they were in 3.0?

[Lastelli]

No...if anything, BLM is currently unbalanced in that its damage output is not justified considering the damage output of the other 2 casters. Now that fflogs finally ranks based on rdps, this is pretty obvious.
Also, as others already said, some of these suggestions are not QoL improvements...they're just buffs.
The only QoL I can see for the job would be unifying LL and BTL. Everything else should stay the same.
In terms of dps, blm, mnk and drg should all be brought down a tiny bit to be honest.