Hrothgar Review

[Gwenorai]

Honestly can see this. SWTOR has the same issue with some races, like Twileks. The headpiece will not show up at all because of the doodaads sprouting from their heads. So even a robe would force the hood to vanish. It's not limited to this game. At least the headpieces such as glasses, and I imagine circlets etc - can be used. I wouldn't be surprised if that's all that could be done. I imagine that armour that is 'Viera' or 'Hrothgar' inspired will not be proper headwear; which we've pretty much seen already.

So, I'm used to this already. The biggest issue I see is that Hrothgar has to pay for a fantasia to change their hairstyle, which honestly - I can't see this changing. Even if it's within reason. I wish it would. As for all legacy hair, perhaps... I guess the argument could be that Viera has iconic hair and you won't really see them with different types, but that seems like a bogus argument.

The fact they're limited to this and then also genderlocked isn't good.

[SturmChurro]

Here is a quote from previous tokyo fan fest interview.



So we might not even get hats/helmets at all because LUL system limitation.

Source: https://gamerescape.com/2019/03/29/f...-of-the-press/

I tthink this is old news. Obviously glasses and circlets are being displayed, etc. Hrothgar also have access to a few full face actual helmets, I think they can wear the dwarf stuff, for example.

Honestly can see this. SWTOR has the same issue with some races, like Twileks. The headpiece will not show up at all because of the doodaads sprouting from their heads. So even a robe would force the hood to vanish. It's not limited to this game. At least the headpieces such as glasses, and I imagine circlets etc - can be used. I wouldn't be surprised if that's all that could be done. I imagine that armour that is 'Viera' or 'Hrothgar' inspired will not be proper headwear; which we've pretty much seen already.

So, I'm used to this already. The biggest issue I see is that Hrothgar has to pay for a fantasia to change their hairstyle, which honestly - I can't see this changing. Even if it's within reason. I wish it would. As for all legacy hair, perhaps... I guess the argument could be that Viera has iconic hair and you won't really see them with different types, but that seems like a bogus argument.

The fact they're limited to this and then also genderlocked isn't good.

Yeah, my sorc (pretty much my main imp) was a twilek though I race changed a lot, that's what it always wen't back to. She couldn't wear hoods, but it's been a really long time. When they added the new race togruta I race changed something, and made a couple alts, and I don't think they could wear any headgear either. I kind of stopped playing shortly after togruta came out, pretty much stopped when the PvP servers died, and I didn't play when they finally did decide to merge them into the PvE. Hate PvE carebear servers for one, but I'm getting off-topic..

Definitely not limited to this game. There is a logical reason for something like togruta, something like Hrothgar could have more headgear, it's just they don't want to spend the time to do so. I think both Hrothgar and Viera could have at least hats. Helmets too, but they would have to be heavily edited. Viera need the hair most definitely, the ones we paid for most. Hrothgar should have more just in general - and they said they were working on both already. I just hope it is a decent amount.

[Dalmacus]

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That's not my point. My point is that yoshida did not promise he will make hats/helms work on the new races. If the devs decided against yoshida wishes to implement them, we'll all be thankful. But the problem is character creation currently did not even state or warn new and existing players that the 2 new races will not have hats/helmets be displayed or hairs will be attached to faces, so bascially it's not providing enough information on what these 2 races can or cannot do.

[Gwenorai]

That's not my point. My point is that yoshida did not promise he will make hats/helms work on the new races. If the devs decided against yoshida wishes to implement them, we'll all be thankful. But the problem is on character creation currently did not even state or warn new and existing players that the 2 new races will not have hats/helmets be displayed or hairs will be attached to faces, so bascially it's not providing enough information on what these 2 races can or cannot do.

To be fair, it doesn't do this in regards to them being gender locked either, their blurb of information doesn't say that their female-only in regards to Viera, and Hrothgar also mentions females. Honestly, if I was new and looking in I would assume that the missing genders were a bloody achievement unlock due to the 'space', there. But on character creation, you would also assume that Hrothgar and Viera can do everything else that the other races can. There should be some sort of warning there to state the limitations.

I'm thinking it is actually a limitation, but they designed themselves in a corner I think by doing it the way they did. They should be the ones to fix this for hrothgar players, especially if they add more faces like they said they were. A fantasia every change is ridiculous.

I'm starting to think this as well, otherwise, they would have changed it already - or rather right from the start. Or rather, not how fantasias work but how the aesthetician works.

[Dalmacus]

To be fair, it doesn't do this in regards to them being gender locked either, their blurb of information doesn't say that their female-only in regards to Viera, and Hrothgar also mentions females. Honestly, if I was new and looking in I would assume that the missing genders were a bloody achievement unlock due to the 'space', there. But on character creation, you would also assume that Hrothgar and Viera can do everything else that the other races can. There should be some sort of warning there to state the limitations.

Yes, i agree with you on this. They should put a *Limited Race pls be warned that something something* if they are planning to go on this route with hair not being able to change at aesthetician and hats or helms not able to display because "Unique heads". On top of this they should also put additional information on mogstation glamour items like headgears will not be displayed on Hrothgar/Viera. None of this will be an issue if the new races can wear hats/helms and change hairstyle at aesthetician of course.