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    geekgirl101's Avatar
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    M'leineya Leoh
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    Red Mage Lv 100

    Was red mage damage nerfed???

    I noticed that lately raid teams have been struggling really badly to beat the dps race and decided to test something out, to my horror it looks like my damage has taken a really big hit and I'm not doing anywhere near as well as I was before even with food buff. Were we nerfed without notice? I'm now concerned that my job will be tossed aside as being one of the worst damage dealing jobs out there.
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    Eloah's Avatar
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    Toki Tsuchimi
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Nerfed how? In comparison to Stormblood, or the recent patch update. And what specifically feels weaker?
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    Ruin Darkstride
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    Excalibur
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    Sage Lv 100
    From what I've seen, Red Mage is basically the same job as it was prior to 5.0, just with added AoE spells and Scorch for an extra step on your main combo. The only adjustments made were the MP costs because RDM could struggle to maintain it in longer fights.
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    Faux Ears
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Nothing was changed as far as I know. Red Mage was never a really big damage dealer due to it's healing and rezzing capabilities.
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    Ruin Darkstride
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilford111 View Post
    Nothing was changed as far as I know. Red Mage was never a really big damage dealer due to it's healing and rezzing capabilities.
    The job guide shows very little "revision"s and no major potency changes that I can see.
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    M'leineya Leoh
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    I can't crunch numbers since we have no means of parsing data but it does look like I'm doing way worse than before and that's in like the past week before the patch. I'm noticing other players in 4-man dungeons are doing way more damage than I am which is a bit of a concern to me as I feel like I've been made much weaker and I'm pretty sure that I'm doing less than before. Just wanted to know if SE maybe lowered our potency or something without telling us.
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    Last edited by geekgirl101; 08-06-2019 at 08:10 AM.
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    TankHunter678's Avatar
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    Selena Zensh
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by geekgirl101 View Post
    I can't crunch numbers since we have no means of parsing data but it does look like I'm doing way worse than before and that's in like the past week before the patch. I'm noticing other players in 4-man dungeons are doing way more damage than I am which is a bit of a concern to me as I feel like I've been made much weaker and I'm pretty sure that I'm doing less than before. Just wanted to know if SE maybe lowered our potency or something without telling us.
    It is not that they lowered your potency. It is that they buffed the potency of the majority of other classes so everyone else around you is doing better damage. Except for NIN, which saw its damage drop like a rock when Dripping Blades got removed.
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    Tezu Silvin
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    Culinarian Lv 80
    It's not that RDM got nerf. It's RDM literally got nothing and no buff in ShB. I can feel my dungeon run with RDM is slower than BRD. Which are the alts I wanted to level up, but using RDM with Trust is so much worse than with BRD that made me quit RDM for now.

    Comparing RDM with BLM changes are like peasant and royalty difference. Though BLM didn't have much change to it's gameplay, the entire focus of QoL change is so on point that it ended up being a buff to BLM. The reason you feel RDM got weaker is because everyone around got better.

    Yeah, RDM got a pretty Scorch, except it's added at the end of your long melee combo that you sometimes can't finish due to boss mechanic. I was expecting the melee combo to be improved in ShB, yet I'm full of disappointment to this job even though I loved RDM to death in SB.
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    Sethra Rage
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    Odin
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Miziliti View Post
    It's not that RDM got nerf. It's RDM literally got nothing and no buff in ShB. I can feel my dungeon run with RDM is slower than BRD. Which are the alts I wanted to level up, but using RDM with Trust is so much worse than with BRD that made me quit RDM for now.

    Comparing RDM with BLM changes are like peasant and royalty difference. Though BLM didn't have much change to it's gameplay, the entire focus of QoL change is so on point that it ended up being a buff to BLM. The reason you feel RDM got weaker is because everyone around got better.

    Yeah, RDM got a pretty Scorch, except it's added at the end of your long melee combo that you sometimes can't finish due to boss mechanic. I was expecting the melee combo to be improved in ShB, yet I'm full of disappointment to this job even though I loved RDM to death in SB.
    RDM does 400 dps lower then bard.

    RDM is no where near as. As as you make out
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Leviathan
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Yes everyone else was buffed,
    Stormblood pretty much almost every dps had seen multiple changes before Red Mage finally got something.
    Shadowbringers could be going same route with exception of they at least lowered mana cost which was very nice

    If at all it should be brought much closer to Bard in terms of dmg
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