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    OhnoozeMyToes's Avatar
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    Level 50 quest from AAR to Heavensward is just too much.

    It’s not that it’s not decent content it’s just that there is a ton of it to go through just to get to the expansion. I can appreciate that they added content but damn I still have 61 quest to go and I’m about at the point of just running through it without reading what’s going on.

    Just saying....or complaining I guess.
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    Karma Dunkelsonn
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    We have been saying that string of MSQs could use some streamlining for years now, their "fix" seems to have been the ARR story skip.
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    Ruin Darkstride
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    It wasn't so bad when it was current because it was released in increments. All together, though, it's a lot to wade through just to get caught up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astrus View Post
    We have been saying that string of MSQs could use some streamlining for years now, their "fix" seems to have been the ARR story skip.
    So pay to not play....interesting.
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    yeah it's annoying, but it's difficult for the devs to cut quests out without comprimising the story, in later expansions they've shortened patch MSQs
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    Doranaux Wavemet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Listrella View Post
    yeah it's annoying, but it's difficult for the devs to cut quests out without comprimising the story, in later expansions they've shortened patch MSQs
    Originally I was against making any adjustments to the MSQ (because I felt like to skip portions of the MSQ would hurt the storytelling) but now after 3 expansions its making it super difficult to recruit any friends to play FFXIV. ARR's story is not the height of the game. It has its moments, but its significantly less engaging than HW, SB, and ShB and there are hundreds of these unengaging quests to get through. A friend of mine started playing a few months back, was enjoying the game and was hoping to be a Dark Knight...but it was such a long, slow process that he lost motivation. He hit level 50, finished ARR 2.0 and was super excited to unlock Dark Knight...and I had to tell him, sorry you have about 6 patches of story still to get through.

    Another friend of mine started playing probably about a year ago and she's only just now getting into the meat of Heavensward. A casual player may well take -years- to catch up to the point of joining the rest of us in end game. At the bare minimum, I would like options for moving more quickly through ARR's story somehow because that's the part of the story where a newbie is most likely to loose interest. And I want options that don't require us to pay Square more money.
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    A true paladin... will sheathe his sword.

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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by WellFooled View Post
    Another friend of mine started playing probably about a year ago and she's only just now getting into the meat of Heavensward. A casual player may well take -years- to catch up to the point of joining the rest of us in end game. At the bare minimum, I would like options for moving more quickly through ARR's story somehow because that's the part of the story where a newbie is most likely to loose interest. And I want options that don't require us to pay Square more money.
    While I agree 2.x could use some pruning, I wouldn’t say it would take a casual player years to get to current endgame—I think that’s a bit hyperbolic. They’d have to just not play for weeks/months at a time, or spend a lot of online time not doing MSQ for that to be the case.

    The first time I did 2.x was back in early HW, and it took me about a month or so of just a couple hours each night (not every night, because I was working a lot at the time). But I was also doing the ARR EXs and farming them for ponies, so I wasn’t focused solely on the story. I did it again on an alt during SB, and I could do a patch a day—so it took maybe a week of 5~6 hours a day to get through 2.x. And that was without skipping anything, and queuing up for the dungeons/trials as a DPS.
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    X'lota Qi
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    IIRC there were times where a section ends with a long conversation after which you turn in only to begin another quest that starts with a long conversation with the same person.
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    "A good RPG needs a healthy dose of imbalance."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkstride View Post
    It wasn't so bad when it was current because it was released in increments. All together, though, it's a lot to wade through just to get caught up.
    Even the the middle of it, like whenever you had to do Titan around 30-35 or whenever...
    It was so damn bad....sooo bad.
    Not only that, ARR story is sooo boring (imo) and only gets mildy interesting at level 40. It's a slog.
    Once you hit HW, at least it gets fun. It's pushing through ARR is the issue with 213901290390213 mindnumbing, meaningless quest.
    Many people, my friends included, dropped this game in the middle of ARR because the quests are too much.
    I can't get my boyfriend to play this game because he loves stories, but ARR is not that great so he lost interest fast.
    OP won't like the Moogles in HW either lol...

    Edit: Pretty much what WellFooled said.
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    Last edited by Mikhaill; 08-06-2019 at 09:39 AM. Reason: Typo.

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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astrus View Post
    We have been saying that string of MSQs could use some streamlining for years now, their "fix" seems to have been the ARR story skip.
    To be fair, if they stop to streamline ARR. That means less time spent developing new content. This is kind of why I've shifted to just reducing the jump potion cost and including a level 50 skip along with. Since we're getting New Game+, people could then go back at their leisure instead of having to do all of ARR at once. I know jump potions as a solution aren't popular but the trade off is potentially less content for Shadowbringers.
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