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  1. #71
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    HumanNinjaToo's Avatar
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    Blaise Darkstar
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    Zalera
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    Black Mage Lv 65
    Quote Originally Posted by IamBetterThanYou View Post
    Its not competitive. Some people dont understand value and increasing crafter increased those people. They will sell for a few profit to afford a cottage in goblet. Competition with them is like wasting time. So i have stopped crafting mostly and focus on gathering and fates/dungeon and retainers for white scrips.

    Gathering/fates/whitescrips gives more gil per hour than crafting. You might say oh, but 4 logs cost 4k and 1 lumber costs 6k. Dont forge the 7 lightning crystal u used to craft costs 3k. This isnt competition. This is just wasting time now a days. If i cant turn a 4k raw mat into 10k then that isnt worth it. And thats exactly what the new market does. Makes profit less and for some product, useless.
    Believe it or not, not everyone is going to value everything the same way you do. Just because more people are lowering the prices does not mean they are crashing the market. The market is evolving. More people playing the game, more people crafting and wanting to sell things, it's now easier for people to buy because they have access to other MB's.. I fail to see how this is so bad.

    If you can make more gil by doing the fates and scripts and you don't need to play the MB game, then what exactly is the problem? If you view it as a waste of time, don't do it. Simple.
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  2. #72
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    IamBetterThanYou's Avatar
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    Chief Littlepaw
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    Louisoix
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by HumanNinjaToo View Post
    Believe it or not, not everyone is going to value everything the same way you do. Just because more people are lowering the prices does not mean they are crashing the market. The market is evolving. More people playing the game, more people crafting and wanting to sell things, it's now easier for people to buy because they have access to other MB's.. I fail to see how this is so bad.

    If you can make more gil by doing the fates and scripts and you don't need to play the MB game, then what exactly is the problem? If you view it as a waste of time, don't do it. Simple.

    My problem is before I could sit and make millions. Now I have to work for it. Aka, do fates. Run to crystarium to deliver collectibles. Do dungeons. Etc.
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  3. #73
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    Black Mage Lv 65
    Quote Originally Posted by IamBetterThanYou View Post
    My problem is before I could sit and make millions. Now I have to work for it. Aka, do fates. Run to crystarium to deliver collectibles. Do dungeons. Etc.
    No bees, no honey; No work, no money.
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  4. #74
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    Hash Browns
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by IamBetterThanYou View Post
    My problem is before I could sit and make millions. Now I have to work for it. Aka, do fates. Run to crystarium to deliver collectibles. Do dungeons. Etc.
    Imagine having to put in effort to gain gil.
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  5. #75
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    Makeda's Avatar
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    Makeda Fyah
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    Ultros
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    Good in the larger picture. Prices start standardizing.

    Some bad aspects, like if one fool stacks 99 soot black dyes everyone on ever server does. Who exactly needs 99 of a color?
    Or all that crap sold for vendor price? There’s just more of it now...
    - I think ot was Guild Wars 2 that dealt with that with a patch setting the minimum sale price to vendor + fee/tax + some small percentage...
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    Last edited by Makeda; 08-06-2019 at 06:11 AM.
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  6. #76
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    Ribald Hagane
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by IamBetterThanYou View Post
    My problem is before I could sit and make millions. Now I have to work for it. Aka, do fates. Run to crystarium to deliver collectibles. Do dungeons. Etc.
    Eh ... have it ever crossed your mind that what you're making now is the same of what people on other servers have been making all those years? If you want to cry how it's not fair to you now ... does this means it hasn't been fair to people on other server who has been making less than what you making?

    Unless you're making Gil for the shake of hoarding Gil, the value of gil (or any currency, be it in game or real life) is always relative to their buying power. You can make 50k a year in Wyoming and live a comfortable middle class life, but making 50k a year in a place like New York is borderline poverty. Sure, if you were selling product A for 1mil gil before, because you need to buy a product B that cost 800k. But the people on high pop/high supply server, maybe they only make 100k selling product A, but that doesn't matter if product B is available at 50k.

    There are one important distinction to make about Wealth acquisition: through Gil transfer and through Gil creation.

    - When you sell something for 1mil and someone bought it for 1mil, you didn't "make" or "create" 1mil Gil, you acquired that from another player.
    - When you get gil from doing World content, quest reward, weekly log, selling vendor trash ...etc... that's Gil creation ... aka printing new money.

    Have a good understand of that concept (macro economy) and you will understand how crossworld market board actually make thing more fair and help combat RMT.

    - The amount of gil people like you make fluctuate greatly depending on server population and supply.
    - The amount of gil people generate does not change server to server. So that mean for a player who does not gather or craft, doing a FATE, completing a quest ...etc... on Gilgamesh will earn the same amount of Gil that someone else earn Lousioix.
    - However, the one on Gilgamesh has access to abundant and cheap supply, while the one on Lousioix has to put up exorbitant price. A gilgamesh player can just do 10 Fate to buy something, while one on Lousioix may have to do 50 to buy the samething.
    - On a macro-economy sense, a server like Lousioix already have a smaller pool of circulating Gil due to a smaller pop "generating" it, that already small amount is further tied up and funnel toward a few people like you at the top. While a serve like Gilgamesh have a much larger circulating Gil pool with a more even distribution, since it's harder to funnel the wealth to a fewer number of people.

    So that's how it solves the issue of fairness. Now think about it further, between the two situation above, which do you think have more risk of players turning into RMT? The one that can reasonable acquire what they want through legitimately Gil creation relatively, or the one having to deal with a large gap between the in game reward and the price set by monopolized traders? PSA: most people don't just buy Gil just for the shake of having Gil.


    Sorry you feel your bottom line was hurt, but you basically just experience the meaning of Globalized free trading. I never care about checking the price of other serves, but I do play with people from other serves i.e crossword statics. I always feel sorry when I heard my team-mate has to pay 4-5 times the amount of what Gilgamesh have on sale. But that never bother me, because I know if I can sell something for 4-5 time more, that also means I will also be paying 4-5 times for what I do want.
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    Last edited by Raven2014; 08-06-2019 at 08:17 AM.

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