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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by IamBetterThanYou View Post
    Your maintality will take the game only so far. Look at Nokia. They had the same response to the buyers now look what they got.
    No idea what happened to Nokia, but I'm giving you the honest truth.
    Why would I come to you if someone can give me what I want for less?
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    I think they need to combine all the linked worlds into one marketboard, which would make it clear what others were selling for, and let you set your prices accordingly.
    Also, it would eliminate the need to world hop while price shopping, saving time, and likely extra server load handling the hops.
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    Someone else said things sells faster now. Which is a blatant lie. Things sell way slower now because people just hop server to find the cheapest. If u are not the cheapest it will take long time and not just cheapest in ur server. But across data centre.

    Also running treasure map lost its hype as well. People did those for Huge profit. Thats how it should be. Now they dont worth shit. A freaking final floor item stays in mb for 10mil for 5 days whereas b4 they would go for 40mil on day 1. See the problem? Not only crafting is hurting but a huge money earner. Treasure maps will die as well.
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hash_Browns View Post
    No idea what happened to Nokia, but I'm giving you the honest truth.
    Why would I come to you if someone can give me what I want for less?

    You wouldnt and this is why I am saying this isnt a good move for crafters. We dnt have the time to check every server for every item we sell. As a buyer u buy 10 items . U can hope server. We cant. We sell way more and its not logical to hop server every 1hr to fix 10+ retainers full of items.
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  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by IamBetterThanYou View Post
    You wouldnt and this is why I am saying this isnt a good move for crafters. We dnt have the time to check every server for every item we sell. As a buyer u buy 10 items . U can hope server. We cant. We sell way more and its not logical to hop server every 1hr to fix 10+ retainers full of items.
    Well, unfortunately that's - as a crafter - your problem.
    If someone else is willing to put in the effort to undercut you - guess who's getting my buisness when I need food/pots from the marketboard?

    Right now, if you are a crafter, you have 2 options as far as the marketboard prices:

    1) Server hop until you get undercut, then change your prices
    2) Give the person who runs mogboard actual money to see every price at once on a consistent updated site

    I'm still going to end up buying the cheapest pots when I need them, either way.
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamSmoot View Post
    I think they need to combine all the linked worlds into one marketboard, which would make it clear what others were selling for, and let you set your prices accordingly.
    Also, it would eliminate the need to world hop while price shopping, saving time, and likely extra server load handling the hops.
    Yes that would make selling a bit faster but it would further crash the prices down. There would be trolls who would be happy to sell items for 2k gil profit. I kid u not. I seen them.
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  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by IamBetterThanYou View Post
    Someone else said things sells faster now. Which is a blatant lie. Things sell way slower now because people just hop server to find the cheapest. If u are not the cheapest it will take long time and not just cheapest in ur server. But across data centre.

    Also running treasure map lost its hype as well. People did those for Huge profit. Thats how it should be. Now they dont worth shit. A freaking final floor item stays in mb for 10mil for 5 days whereas b4 they would go for 40mil on day 1. See the problem? Not only crafting is hurting but a huge money earner. Treasure maps will die as well.
    Then perhaps you should lower your prices to be competitive?
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    Last edited by WaterShield; 08-05-2019 at 10:52 PM.

  8. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by WaterShield View Post
    Then perhaps you should lower your prices to be competitive?
    Its not competitive. Some people dont understand value and increasing crafter increased those people. They will sell for a few profit to afford a cottage in goblet. Competition with them is like wasting time. So i have stopped crafting mostly and focus on gathering and fates/dungeon and retainers for white scrips.

    Gathering/fates/whitescrips gives more gil per hour than crafting. You might say oh, but 4 logs cost 4k and 1 lumber costs 6k. Dont forge the 7 lightning crystal u used to craft costs 3k. This isnt competition. This is just wasting time now a days. If i cant turn a 4k raw mat into 10k then that isnt worth it. And thats exactly what the new market does. Makes profit less and for some product, useless.
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  9. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hash_Browns View Post
    Well, unfortunately that's - as a crafter - your problem.
    If someone else is willing to put in the effort to undercut you - guess who's getting my buisness when I need food/pots from the marketboard?

    Right now, if you are a crafter, you have 2 options as far as the marketboard prices:

    1) Server hop until you get undercut, then change your prices
    2) Give the person who runs mogboard actual money to see every price at once on a consistent updated site

    I'm still going to end up buying the cheapest pots when I need them, either way.

    Do what you want but you might wanna delete that comment. Mogboard is against ToS and is bannable.
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  10. #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by IamBetterThanYou View Post
    Do what you want but you might wanna delete that comment. Mogboard is against ToS and is bannable.
    I'm not saying I'm paying for mogboard or anything, I wouldn't ever pay to find out prices. I'm not even a crafter, really.
    As far as I'm aware talking about mogboard isn't against the ToS though.

    Wait.. how would using Mogboard, a website be against the ToS exactly?
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    Last edited by Hash_Browns; 08-05-2019 at 11:41 PM.

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