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  1. #51
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    Nanami_Naniwa's Avatar
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    Nan Naniwa
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    And here I am on Spriggan selling you guys overpriced stuff and you don't buy it. You are ruining my economy Laott9!
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    "Pray return to the workshop room."

  2. #52
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    Rena Ryuugu
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    This is exactly why we need competition, otherwise what stops the higher ups (skilled crafters) from skyrocketing the prices. Short of others actually making them for themselves but the point still stands.
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    Last edited by AlphaFox; 08-05-2019 at 09:58 PM.

  3. #53
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    Lao Guch'a
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    Yes. The data center markets r the best we got so far. I have 10 million. I have a gatherer at lvl 80 but I can't never make that gil that crafter can. So 2 million is too much for a poor young who wants to save the world :P
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  4. #54
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    Nan Naniwa
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    Well, if the young lad needs something crafted, just poke me ingame. I'm sure we come to an agreement
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    "Pray return to the workshop room."

  5. #55
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    Chief Littlepaw
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanami_Naniwa View Post
    Oh, come on now! You started this thread with "I just want to know how other crafters feel" and now when other crafters step forward, you accuse them of not knowing their stuff because they are "Zelkova Crafters"? Did it occur to you that maybe not all just agree to you? Don't ask for an opinion if you blame People to not know what they are talking about just because they don't agree with you.

    I get you. I truly do. I focus mainly on crafting and selling stuff on the MB. And it hit me as well that the prizes for the new crafted gear dropped so fast and even the prizes for the mats from the maps. I really do hoped that they would at least stay somewhere above 2m for some time (planned with 5m to be honest - at least for the first week). But it didn't. Even if it is annoying that I'm not making that big of a profit as I used to be and that I need to adjust or "step up my game" I still think that the cross-server MB is a blessing. I can buy out the mats for the new glamour cheap and the glamour itself still sells for a good enough profit on my server. And I'm on Spriggan. There isn't much of a economy on Spriggan.

    I care about gil. I care a looot about gil. But things have changed and we need to adjust. We just can't rely on our experience of the past anymore but have to take a closer look at the MB again to see where the wins and loses lies.

    So u r saying as a businessman I should be happy that we earn less now? Its not even a question of a crafter anymore. Its just logic. Idek how ANY crafter would support selling for lower price. I am sorry I should have never asked the question in the thread. It seems you people worry too much about others in a freaking game lol. I would agree if the prices effected the buyers to pay their rent or help with kidney dyalisis but we are talking about gils. Who in their right mind would be happy with a stable economy as a seller if u can take advantage of it?

    Ik u said u care about gils but you give me the vibe that u are siding with the new economy. I am not and it sucks.
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  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by IamBetterThanYou View Post
    So u r saying as a businessman I should be happy that we earn less now? Its not even a question of a crafter anymore. Its just logic. Idek how ANY crafter would support selling for lower price. I am sorry I should have never asked the question in the thread. It seems you people worry too much about others in a freaking game lol. I would agree if the prices effected the buyers to pay their rent or help with kidney dyalisis but we are talking about gils. Who in their right mind would be happy with a stable economy as a seller if u can take advantage of it?

    Ik u said u care about gils but you give me the vibe that u are siding with the new economy. I am not and it sucks.
    When then you have 2 options:

    A) Adapt to the new market
    B) Leave it
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  7. #57
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    Adore Mi
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    Bad for greedy crafters, good for everyone else. Luckily, I'm in the 'everyone else' group.
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  8. #58
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    AND whoever said we need more competition in crafting in a game where crafting takes no skill but just investment, you are illogical. This isnt me playing zed vs zed. This is me farting vs someone else farting There needs no competition here. Too much fart will just smell worse just like how too much crafter is making earning gils worse.

    No crafter in their right mind will even remotely like the idea of competition in crafting. Thats just not a skill based competition. Its just hitting ur back with a mallet and calling it competition.
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  9. #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by IamBetterThanYou View Post
    AND whoever said we need more competition in crafting in a game where crafting takes no skill but just investment, you are illogical. This isnt me playing zed vs zed. This is me farting vs someone else farting There needs no competition here. Too much fart will just smell worse just like how too much crafter is making earning gils worse.

    No crafter in their right mind will even remotely like the idea of competition in crafting. Thats just not a skill based competition. Its just hitting ur back with a mallet and calling it competition.
    You're right, no crafter likes competition because it gives them a monopoly on the market, which you can't have anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hash_Browns View Post
    When then you have 2 options:

    A) Adapt to the new market
    B) Leave it

    Your maintality will take the game only so far. Look at Nokia. They had the same response to the buyers now look what they got.
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