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    GrimGale's Avatar
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    Grim Gaelasch
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    Moogle
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I am a SCH main and I have leveled and used all three healers so far in 80 Extremes and Savage.

    I think WHM is currently the best designed of all three.
    I don't think WHM needs a Lilly dump, rather I'd give it the ability to weave lilly healing between casts by making Afflatus Rapture and Solace into oGCDs.

    If anything I'd make Fluid Aura increase the speed of lilly production either increasing the lilly gauge by one or speeding up the generation by X for X seconds.

    All changes would require to adjust potencies of course.

    WHM feels a bit clunky. I wish you'd be able to weave spells better.
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    Eisenhower's Avatar
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    Meera Khei
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    Odin
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by GrimGale View Post
    WHM feels a bit clunky. I wish you'd be able to weave spells better.
    If there was more of a semblance of balance between the healers and their design, I'd say that WHM being GCD-dependent is by design. But honestly at this point I suspect SQEX just fling pasta at the wall and whatever shapes stick are implemented.
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Archwizard View Post
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    WHM here. It's very unlikely in any remotely serious content that you and your co-healer would go more than 30 seconds without need for a single GCD heal. As you have zero cost to your filler dps for casting said heal, if the need is limited to roughly twice per minute, then that should be you casting it, while your cohealer keeps on dpsing. And honestly that's enough.

    And once you're outside of serious content, such as in a dungeon, if you'd otherwise overcap before having need of a Lily, you just use it during downtime between pulls (or, during jumps, if such occurs). Unlike the old system, ShB Lilies don't require combat to proc a stack. You can run into combat having prepped 450n AoE and a further 450 against the main target. That's not bad value at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by GrimGale View Post
    I don't think WHM needs a Lilly dump, rather I'd give it the ability to weave lilly healing between casts by making Afflatus Rapture and Solace into oGCDs.
    And gods, no, do not do this. Maximized, you have a minimum of 6.66 oGCDs per minute (Assize twice per three minutes, two Assylum per three minutes, Thin Air once every other, LD, Tetra, Benedict twice per minutes, and Benediction once per three minutes), while having to compensate not only for the lulls in that average, but the bursts. These will in pairs require a Regen, Dia, or an Afflatus spell to cast without clipping, and trading Lily power and overall damage and healing potential to make Afflatus spells oGCD would only make clipping issues far, far worse. That or, in place of the obvious balance requirements, this guy is just asking to make WHM-WHM the standard meta. That's an extra 600 potency per minute on the job that already provides the easiest, most consistent healing and the most rDPS (yes, its sheer gap in pDPS outperforms what is provided by Cards, FW, or CS).
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 08-07-2019 at 11:09 AM.