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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    Simple. If females are, males should be. The viera race is designed and based on sex appeal, makes no sense for it to be only for the women of the race. And also, the 'thats just Zeylos' is quite unnecessary. Im stillv ery amused by the hate some ppl have towards me lol
    Who said its "hate"? You got the weirdest ideas and thoughts. You like to post twice, no thrice even in a row, and most of the time your thoughts make me facepalm, but else I dont hold a grudge against you.
    And I am aware, you are not the only one who wants them just for looks. Im not saying they should look ugly or anything, but maybe we should focus more on the small details instead of "they should have a slim body, some muscles, they should be smaller than females" blabla.

    I'd actually appreciate some more details on them so they dont look like 1:1 Elezen with Bunny ears. A fur patch? Maybe some on the forearm? How about scars not on face but the ears?
    Also, some hairstyles which are not only long, but also short ones that would look good. Eyes that rather sting and look sharp, while keeping those charasteristic bunny noses.
    Actually something Ive crossed not a long time ago is:


    https://images.mein-mmo.de/magazin/m...Viera-AuRa.jpg

    It does remind me of those lionheads
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post
    Who said its "hate"? You got the weirdest ideas and thoughts. You like to post twice, no thrice even in a row, and most of the time your thoughts make me facepalm, but else I dont hold a grudge against you.
    And I am aware, you are not the only one them just for looks. Im not saying they should look ugly or anything, but maybe we should focus more on the small details instead of "they should have a slim body, some muscles, they should be smaller than females" blabla.

    I'd actually appreciate some more details on them so they dont look like 1:1 Elezen with Bunny ears. A fur patch? Maybe some on the forearm? How about scars not on face but the ears?
    Also, something hairstyles not only being long, but also some short ones that would look good. Eyes that rather sting and look sharp.
    Actually something Ive crossed not a long time ago is:


    https://images.mein-mmo.de/magazin/m...Viera-AuRa.jpg

    It does remind me of those lionheads
    I actualy too can't understand the people who wants the male Viera just for looks... I'm here because it's dumb to have only one part of the cake. You give one - give us second to make it whole. But anyway, if you want to talk about visual appearance, then hear me out. Mates. Male Viera are ALL freaking RAMBOS if you know even a little about their culture. So there will be NO LITTLE BOYS, NO SMALLER THAN FEMALE, they are all must be FIT, with scars, cold and sharp eyes. They NOT ASKING QUESTIONS, they shot you down if you even get a little closer to the den. I would like to see some idian/aztec haircuts (mohawk etc.),some facial warpaint. Viera are "coldblooded". It's their nature and culture. So we should have the proper male represantation of hardened ranger, silent warior, not some sex-toy. They are not SLIM, they are FIT and ripped. Imagine some Boa-snake that silently wates in the trees and looking for anyone foolish enough to cross the invisible border of their den. That's what they are. now make that boa male and more humanoid, then give it some hare ears. That's what male Viera are. And I will not agree for any less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakshazi View Post
    They are not SLIM, they are FIT and ripped.
    Actually, Yoshi P described male viera as slim in an interview. Matsuno also described them being fit. So male viera would probably be slim and fit.

    "If we did create a male design for the Viera, he would be quite elegant, handsome, and slim. He would look more like the Elezen race, but with bunny ears."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    Actually, Yoshi P described male viera as slim in an interview. Matsuno also described them being fit. So male viera would probably be slim and fit.

    "If we did create a male design for the Viera, he would be quite elegant, handsome, and slim. He would look more like the Elezen race, but with bunny ears."
    https://www.usgamer.net/articles/fin...r-trust-system
    So my idea of how they would look like and my reasoning hit the mark then! Like Elezen, but likely with more defined musculature.

    Rather than Rambo or The Mountain, given their harsh, survivalist lifestyle, male Viera bodies would be more akin to that of Olympian gymnasts, if anything. Very tall gymnasts.

    As a note, I doubt they would be given the exact same Elezen neck proportions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nynuwe View Post
    Like Elezen, but likely with more defined musculature.
    That would be my guess as well. Of course, similar to elezen but with better proportions.

    However, I reject the idea that male viera must look a certain way because of their lifestyle. Not all fantasy races in video games follow this logic because it's fantasy.

    I put more stock into what Yoshi P and Matsuno say on the matter which is "slim, elegant, and handsome" and "fit and lightweight" like Riishiki right before his fight with Joe (from Ashita no Joe).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    That would be my guess as well. Of course, similar to elezen but with better proportions.

    However, I reject the idea that male viera must look a certain way because of their lifestyle. Not all fantasy races in video games follow this logic because it's fantasy.

    I put more stock into what Yoshi P and Matsuno say on the matter which is "slim, elegant, and handsome" and "fit and lightweight" like Riishiki right before his fight with Joe (from Ashita no Joe).
    You make a good point. But since this game did try to reflect on this expansion that certain lifestyles can (not will) indeed lead to certain body types, so it's somewhat following that logic. On top of that, the game only attributes one kind of body type to each race and subrace for us to play with, so I went with the most likely scenario which is that they originally started in a village/tribe. Traditionally, these tribes would impose extreme survivalist conditions on them, as Wards of the Forest, and such an extreme lifestyle gives little room for variety of how their bodies will be. Considering they mostly have to provide for themselves, and use trees for stealth, there is little room for love rolls. Not saying there cannot be individuals who deviate from the mean, but I imagine that for most of them it's either become lean and strong, or become dead.

    But what happens after they leave a life like that, for whatever reason, behind is up to them according our own roleplaying decisions. Maybe they gorged on all the delicious, luxurious food, given they never had the privilege of being able to satisfy their gluttony for the sake of flavor alone. Maybe they choose a more sedentary lifestyle, but still keep a similar eating habit. Maybe they keep fighting, but with a style that demands even more muscle tone and fat reserves. The possibilities in our headcanons for our characters are endless.

    But since this game only gives us one body type option for each subrace, it's really up to Yoshi P which one that will be. Personally, I really like his take on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakshazi View Post
    I actualy too can't understand the people who wants the male Viera just for looks... I'm here because it's dumb to have only one part of the cake. You give one - give us second to make it whole. But anyway, if you want to talk about visual appearance, then hear me out. Mates. Male Viera are ALL freaking RAMBOS if you know even a little about their culture. So there will be NO LITTLE BOYS, NO SMALLER THAN FEMALE, they are all must be FIT, with scars, cold and sharp eyes. They NOT ASKING QUESTIONS, they shot you down if you even get a little closer to the den. I would like to see some idian/aztec haircuts (mohawk etc.),some facial warpaint. Viera are "coldblooded". It's their nature and culture. So we should have the proper male represantation of hardened ranger, silent warior, not some sex-toy. They are not SLIM, they are FIT and ripped. Imagine some Boa-snake that silently wates in the trees and looking for anyone foolish enough to cross the invisible border of their den. That's what they are. now make that boa male and more humanoid, then give it some hare ears. That's what male Viera are. And I will not agree for any less.
    The main reason I want male viera is because we got female viera. I dont want male viera to be sexy just cuz hey, in fact, I typically never will play a character that wears skimpy clothes (breaks my immersion personally, I just find it quite dumb) the only reason why i want that is because the females are, and in my opinion, the males and the females should fill the exact same nieche in a fantasy game. The other reason I want male viera is because they are like wood elves to me, which is what I go for 99% of the times
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