5.05 Patch -- Nerf SCH Energy Drain to 80 potency

[nanatotempole]

Broil = 280 potency
vs.
Energy Drain = 150 Potency
Ruin II = 200 Potency
Together: 350 potency.

This means during DPS windows (e.g. the opener with Chain Strat) we want to Ruin II + Energy Drain as much as possible, even dissipating the faerie. This seems entirely counter to the philosophy of healers going into the expansion.

I suggest nerfing Energy Drain from 150 to 80 potency so that 1 Broil III is the same potency as Ruin II + energy drain. This will allow SCHs to feel like weaving kings without being pressured to forsake all of their healing tools for DPS. This allows SCH to DPS and heal during the same GCD window without sacrificing one or the other. Ruin II + ED + Fae Blessing is a perfect example.

[galbsadi]

Compromise: give us back the aetherflow reduction trait, keep MP regen where it's at....and you can nerf it to zero potency for all I care.

(That said, it's not really worth worrying about, it's a relatively tiny portion of DPS, and even in a maximized circumstance (Aetherflow about to come off CD, Dissipation available, and full Aetherflow stacks)...it's still only 9 casts...or roughly 1/3 of our actual uptime (the rest of the time it's literally less than 10% of our uptime if used entirely for damage)...so while it might be an optimization on paper, it's quite small.

[Billythepancake]

I dont think it's really necessary to nerf ED, or at least not yet. if we got some more DPS options because of it, sure, but 150 potency compared to WHM's 300 potency assize hardly comes off as OP to me. We're also sacrificing one of our main healing abilities for every ED we do.

Would it be the end of the world if it were nerfed? Honestly, no, as long as I still have it and it does SOME damage, that's all I need from it, but I also dont think it's a needed nerf.

[HyperiusUltima]

Still, this DPS buff further alienated AST from the meta because of its kit. SCH has some of the best healing and preventative shielding available, so they’re obviously locked in like they were before Energy Drain was given back as a Aetherflow Dump But aren’t completely over-the-top. As much as I like it back, it does not bring better balance.

Generally what they need to do is bring up AST’s pDPS a tiny bit more and fix the issue with Nocturnal being hot garbanzo beans. If they don’t want to increase that further, then they can adjust the rDPS of the cards, the main mechanic of AST, and maybe bring back Royal Road and make it this:

Royal Road
Lv 35
Cooldown: 60s
Ability
Range: 20y

Can only be used when a card is in your hand. Spreads the card effects at half potency to party members within range.

This would allow AST the choice for a raid-wide Buff that would help push them close to the other two Healers without being overbearing in rDPS like it was last expansion. This would also be min/max’d with Lord/Lady since that’s 4%/8%.

If the minute Cooldown is too much, put it on a 90s CD to help keep it in line with Draw.

[Urthdigger]

I'd rather see them make ruin/broil have a shorter cast time like they did with heals to facilitate weaving.

[Impurrrsive]

Nerf it for all i care, i just need the mp. Even with this current meager damage there's already QQ about it
No need to change others

[Kacho_Nacho]

Compromise: give us back the aetherflow reduction trait, keep MP regen where it's at....and you can nerf it to zero potency for all I care.

(That said, it's not really worth worrying about, it's a relatively tiny portion of DPS, and even in a maximized circumstance (Aetherflow about to come off CD, Dissipation available, and full Aetherflow stacks)...it's still only 9 casts...or roughly 1/3 of our actual uptime (the rest of the time it's literally less than 10% of our uptime if used entirely for damage)...so while it might be an optimization on paper, it's quite small.

I agree. There's no need to nerf Energy Drain.

[Wawachume]

Generally what they need to do is bring up AST’s pDPS a tiny bit more and fix the issue with Nocturnal being hot garbanzo beans.

I mean, I know nocturnal AST is bad right now, but this actually sounds delicious.

[BunnyChain]

The entire point of ED is to sacrifice healing potential to get more damage. You can't have your cake and eat it too, that would be boring, just like the suggested nerf.

[Dynia]

Broil = 280 potency
vs.
Energy Drain = 150 Potency
Ruin II = 200 Potency
Together: 350 potency.

This means during DPS windows (e.g. the opener with Chain Strat) we want to Ruin II + Energy Drain as much as possible, even dissipating the faerie. This seems entirely counter to the philosophy of healers going into the expansion.

I suggest nerfing Energy Drain from 150 to 80 potency so that 1 Broil III is the same potency as Ruin II + energy drain. This will allow SCHs to feel like weaving kings without being pressured to forsake all of their healing tools for DPS. This allows SCH to DPS and heal during the same GCD window without sacrificing one or the other. Ruin II + ED + Fae Blessing is a perfect example.

when I said ED is too much dps gain ppls said I overreacting