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    Vnolan's Avatar
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    Vyncent Nolan
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    You call lower prices making it worse? I only see upsides. Bots don't farm the stuff I do (EX and Raid drops) and I get to buy my raid consumables cheap. The only losers I see, are people trying to monopolise certain goods on the MB.
    "Cheating is fine if I can benefit from it"
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    Momomi Momi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vnolan View Post
    "Cheating is fine if I can benefit from it"
    They're going to cheat anyway, and it's not my responsibility to make sure they don't. You're damn right I'll be happy to benefit from it.
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    Chloe Lehideux
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    They're going to cheat anyway, and it's not my responsibility to make sure they don't. You're damn right I'll be happy to benefit from it.
    You dont.
    They are pushing people into your source of income, because they cannot compete with fully automated never-banned bots. This mass of people drops the price multiple times to the point where you are doing many times less gil than you would do if that never happened.
    Not only droping the prices, but also RMT accounts accumulates incredible amount of gils and use the visiting system to flood your server market with stuff, dropping prices even more, because they could make money out of it by just buying cheap and selling for more. Not only that! But if your server is closed for new characters, these RMT have an open door to just rush into your server and and keep destroying its economy with bots thanks to the visiting feature.
    There is less gil circulating between players, because a lot of it goes into the piggy bank of RMTs, and you are doing less gil as a final result.

    This boggles my mind how people refuse to see the full picture.
    These are no longer indivudals, but fully profesional companies with their own programming staff and workstations around the workplace to run multiple games at one time.
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    Last edited by Nedkel; 08-01-2019 at 06:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    You dont.
    They are pushing people into your source of income, because they cannot compete with fully automated never-banned bots. This mass of people drops the price multiple times to the point where you are doing many times less gil than you would do if that never happened.
    Not only droping the prices, but also RMT accounts accumulates incredible amount of gils and use the visiting system to flood your server market with stuff, dropping prices even more, because they could make money out of it by just buying cheap and selling for more.
    There is less gil circulating between players, because a lot of it goes into the piggy bank of RMTs, and you are doing less gil as a final result.

    This boggles my mind how people refuse to see the full picture.
    That's now how it works. I've been at this "game" for 20+ years now. RMT farm bots have pretty much always been a benefit of farming the items that nobody else wants to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    That's now how it works. I've been at this "game" for 20+ years now. RMT farm bots have pretty much always been a benefit of farming the items that nobody else wants to.
    This is a big bull poo and you know that.
    They know how to make gil, and how to make it fast, simply selling crystals wont make it, leave alone paying for the running business. There are so many advanced bots who could farm feats, dungeons or even pvp.
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    Momomi Momi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    This is a big bull poo and you know that.
    They know how to make gil, and how to make it fast, simply selling crystals wont make it, leave alone paying for the running business. There are so many advanced bots who could farm feats, dungeons or even pvp.
    The only meaningful thing they can farm in dungeons is amassing gil from the kills. I've seen them do it, too. Ended up in their party once or twice in my whole time playing this game.

    The only thing they can farm in PvP is exp. They have better sources of that elsewhere.
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    Nessa Goddessly
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    Ravana
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    That's now how it works. I've been at this "game" for 20+ years now. RMT farm bots have pretty much always been a benefit of farming the items that nobody else wants to.
    Kinda sucks for gatherers though, I had to pick up crafting as well to make my gatherers worth anything.
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