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    Quote Originally Posted by Coulvre View Post
    I understand the reasoning is regarding fraud…
    I don't. What kind of problem are they trying to solve with the limitation? What kind of fraud are happening?

    I would be okay with the limitation if, for example, I could skip the log in process entirely. If I don't have to type my password and OTP everytime I try to run the game, it surely would improve my enjoyment of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alenonimo View Post
    I don't. What kind of problem are they trying to solve with the limitation? What kind of fraud are happening?
    they will never tell you that bc then you'd be aware of how people are committing fraud (and that runs the risk of more fraud.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alenonimo View Post
    I don't. What kind of problem are they trying to solve with the limitation? What kind of fraud are happening?

    I would be okay with the limitation if, for example, I could skip the log in process entirely. If I don't have to type my password and OTP everytime I try to run the game, it surely would improve my enjoyment of the game.
    I don't understand the exact reason either, and also don't necessarily expect them to outline it in detail because such matters can't always be made public. I just meant that I can see why they would make a decision based on the opportunity to defend against potential fraud, but that it isn't fair that it should inconvenience so many legitimate users in the process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alenonimo View Post
    I don't. What kind of problem are they trying to solve with the limitation? What kind of fraud are happening?
    Steam refunds is the hypothesis I have heard. By circumventing the Steam login process, no Steam game time is logged against the account, so RMT are able to play on an account for as many hours as they can until it is banned, then request a full refund from Steam since it shows the play time as under two hours. Thus both Steam and SE are losing money, and RMT get infinite accounts at no cost.

    I don't know how much truth there is to this hypothesis because I don't use steam.

    The solution from SE's end should still be to allow conversion of a Steam account to a regular account, or at least allow for dual Steam PC licenses.
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