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  1. #401
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    worldofneil's Avatar
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    Scott Pilgrim
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    It's nice to know that even after 40 pages of comments against this, SE is still going to plough ahead with this without any new information as to why they feel they have to do this.

    We've known for 5 years now that the "Steam version" was identical to the non-Steam version. Why make the change now and force additional restrictions?

    Very disappointing.
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  2. #402
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    Ayin'a Quist
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    I already posted here once before but I'm going to do so again following the recent announcement. As other people have said, the restrictions are particularly annoying considering that when the game first came out on Steam, there was no warning that accounts would be locked into the Steam version for all future expansions, and now, unable to launch the game through any other means than Steam. I understand the reasoning is regarding fraud, but there are so many other games on Steam that don't force this, and leaving players who have legitimately bought the game with no option but to go along with it is very annoying.
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    Lilita Anklebiter
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coulvre View Post
    I understand the reasoning is regarding fraud…
    I don't. What kind of problem are they trying to solve with the limitation? What kind of fraud are happening?

    I would be okay with the limitation if, for example, I could skip the log in process entirely. If I don't have to type my password and OTP everytime I try to run the game, it surely would improve my enjoyment of the game.
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    Last edited by Alenonimo; 07-31-2019 at 08:49 PM. Reason: Add

  4. #404
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alenonimo View Post
    I don't. What kind of problem are they trying to solve with the limitation? What kind of fraud are happening?
    they will never tell you that bc then you'd be aware of how people are committing fraud (and that runs the risk of more fraud.)
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  5. #405
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    SequentialNerd's Avatar
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    Tiy Neferet
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    Malboro
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    If they're going to do this, at least they should provide a way to buy a non-Steam licence! This is not going to solve fraud problems.
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  6. #406
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    Seraphim Ilori
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    I hate this decision. Please give me a method of switching to a non-Steam account if you insist on doing this.
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  7. #407
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    Iscariot Brathadh
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    I bought the steam copy way back in ARR when we didn't know this would be happening. I hate the steam client and do everything I can not to use it. I just came back to the game. Don't kill it again for me. Let me switch to standard PC
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  8. #408
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    When I bought the Steam copy back in 2014, there was zero indication of the limitations that I would face. Good to see they're still ploughing ahead with it... Wonder how frequently Steam is gonna go down. If it's anything like ESO, we're done for basically, and all Steam players are gonna be struggling to play... If they at the very least offer us a way out of it, without requiring an entire new account (or buying a PS4), then we'll be good to go.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Aruna Tethyos
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    Count me in. I dont want to always have to use bloody steam to play a game. Nor was I told that I would be locked into steam during purchase.
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  10. #410
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    Ifalna Sha'yoko
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    Quote Originally Posted by szalkerous View Post
    The Steam overlay built into the client alone has caused massive issues with many users.
    As a result of this change, I hereby demand we be given a one-time ability to trade in our Steam keys for Square Enix direct Windows platform keys on our accounts.
    As an owner of the steam version, I've NEVER used steam with the client. I always start ffxivboot64.exe directly, get into the crappy SE launcher and then into the game.

    So where exactly are you having problems?
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