Patch 5.05 DPS balance discussion Nin+Dnc

[Maero]

Blm and Drg are not overtuned and there is a reason blm should be the high dps it is.
Ever so slightly bummed out that DNC did not get a slight buff (Bard could have used changes also) but c'est la vie!
I still think Nin is in a very bad spot

[Quor]

why would I struggle on Titania Ex with a crappy Ninja when I can bring a blm or drg ?

Because a good NIN is better than a crappy DRG or BLM.

[RoricRayner]

Because a good NIN is better than a crappy DRG or BLM.

I don't think that was the point. Player skill is irrelevant because a bad player is going to be bad and you can always expect bad numbers to come out. I think the point was no matter what percentile a person is at, the blm and drg will do more than ninja in raid contribution hands down

[RoricRayner]

Blm and Drg are not overtuned and there is a reason blm should be the high dps it is.
Ever so slightly bummed out that DNC did not get a slight buff (Bard could have used changes also) but c'est la vie!
I still think Nin is in a very bad spot

I am not sure there is a good reason for why classes should be that strong imo. I am assuming you mean difficulty of play or difficulty to pull off higher levels of dps on that class. Even if they are hard to play or what not I think every class should be somewhat comparable in damage. Maybe a little higher but I think where they are at is too much. If not a nerf to drg and blm i believe all classes need to be brought closer to them.
Smn, mnk, nin, etc. all classes have their challenges and in my opinion blm is not any harder. Difficulty can be considered subjective when speaking about handling harder classes, Only in very few cases would I say a class could be considered "objectively" easy and that would be in rare cases such as WHM.

[Aomine1992]

Blm and Drg are not overtuned and there is a reason blm should be the high dps it is.
Ever so slightly bummed out that DNC did not get a slight buff (Bard could have used changes also) but c'est la vie!
I still think Nin is in a very bad spot

What’s BLM reason? DRG is OP but with the current changes SAM will beat it and MNK might as well.

But what is BLM reason for being so far ahead and don’t say mobility because SMN and RDM suffer from mobility issues now. If you say Rez it’s more of a gimmick then anything that could just be a role ability. Embolden could be argued but awthwrpact is negligible and ineffective. The other two casters have utility but that’s no reason to have
BLM>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SMN>RDM

[24daking]

So tired of noobs parroting what others say to nerf drg, you have literally no idea what you are talking about. I could go into detail and rip you to shreds but I'd prefer not to.

Drgs are doing less or even raid dps as monks now so I don’t get why people keep asking for monk buffs and drg nerfs lol they are both doing about 200-500 raid dps both seem to be in a pretty good spot to me if anything I would bring drg up even higher to match monks personal dps

[24daking]

Blm and Drg are not overtuned and there is a reason blm should be the high dps it is.
Ever so slightly bummed out that DNC did not get a slight buff (Bard could have used changes also) but c'est la vie!
I still think Nin is in a very bad spot

DNC does not need any potency buffs they are pushing out 1000-1700 raid dps consistently regardless of party comp. in a optimized party the highest I’ve seen ninja hit so far is 1100 raid dps so dancers are fulfilling their role well. If they buff their personal dnc would be locked into every comp even more then they already are

[Neela]

What’s BLM reason? The other two casters have utility but that’s no reason to have
BLM>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SMN>RDM

It's Yoshis cls - that's why. /topic

[Kabooa]

People will pick the path of least resistance, why would I struggle on Titania Ex with a crappy Ninja when I can bring a blm or drg ? you know what logic is right ?

https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statisti...t=95&class=DPS

Nobody, and I mean nobody, is going to choose to play with someone who hits for less dmg than a healer !

Edit: I am sleep deprived due to the crafting day 1 rush.

Please forgive me. I thought it said -Titan-.

[24daking]

What’s BLM reason? DRG is OP but with the current changes SAM will beat it and MNK might as well.

But what is BLM reason for being so far ahead and don’t say mobility because SMN and RDM suffer from mobility issues now. If you say Rez it’s more of a gimmick then anything that could just be a role ability. Embolden could be argued but awthwrpact is negligible and ineffective. The other two casters have utility but that’s no reason to have
BLM>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SMN>RDM

Blm damage falls off way harder then smn and rdm when mobility is an issue tho yea all of them might have mobility issues but the difference in fall off damage when you introduce mobility is a different story. It takes a lot of practice and knowledge of a fight to get a blm that can pull off those crazy number cuz they exactly where to position to make sure they are moving the least amount possible in the fight