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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Haven't betas been more of a demo lately though? Basically just a glorified way of saying "Here's a early access period, but if it's shitty we'll call it a beta to cover our asses."
    I can agree with this, I dont think I've been in a beta that had restricted access (maybe restricted level cap) in the past couple years...

    Infact I think XIV is the only beta i've been in that changed dramatically, this was closed beta, open beta is pretty much same as what we had at retail, no change at all lol.
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  2. #32
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    at least when 2.0 comes out we can all smile and say "The 2.0 beta was nothing like this game is now (maybe)".
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  3. #33
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    It's hardly 100% complete. Even Yoshida said he considered it to be 50% complete at this point.
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  4. #34
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    people just like calling it "paying for beta" cause it makes them feel like tragic heroes /shrug
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mug View Post
    It's hardly 100% complete. Even Yoshida said he considered it to be 50% complete at this point.
    That, in my opinion was one of the worst things Yoshida could have said. Really.

    I personally feel that the game is at "just launched" level in terms of quality and content. Of course, the fact that many (or all) of us already have one or multiple classes capped doesn't help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mug View Post
    It's hardly 100% complete. Even Yoshida said he considered it to be 50% complete at this point.
    Reading comprehension is a bitch.

    AH and search function, along with class reforms set the bar to where Yoshida thought the game would be a worthy title. That was achieved.
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  7. #37
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    I want my reparations paid in special items, special gil, special pink chocobo, and a position of grand general of my grand company. That is all.
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  8. #38
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    It's a beta and i'll pay for it anyways.
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meow_Zedong View Post
    No matter what the community thinks or considers, this game is not a beta. It is now a retail game, that is 100% as complete as other games. It will be upgraded later yes, but all MMO's are continually upgraded. The game developers believe it deserves to be paid for, if you do too, then pay. If not, then don't.

    Don't expect extra compensation because you are somehow "altruistic" enough to pay for an incomplete game, because you are not. At this point its just like any other. They are providing you a service, you pay for it. It's selfish to think you deserve an extra prize greater than what you would get with a different game.

    Seriously do you storm into gamestop and claim that because you didn't like the game you bought you want a free strategy guide or something?

    I dont care if I am paying or not (and I am) this game has been reduced to beta again, SE does not want to say it, and it seems some of the fans dont want to as well..... but Look at the damn game..... its in a "beta state"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Haven't betas been more of a demo lately though? Basically just a glorified way of saying "Here's a early access period, but if it's shitty we'll call it a beta to cover our asses."
    This, betas these days are basically server stress testing and small minor bug testing.

    This games original Beta was more like an Alpha anyway, I'm sure people who got into phase one can remember just how lacking it was.
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