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  1. 07-30-2019 08:59 PM #1
    Launched
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    The complaints are ignored because they're not valid. It's a good skill.
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  2. 07-31-2019 01:11 AM #2
    Deceptus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Launched View Post
    The complaints are ignored because they're not valid. It's a good skill.
    Until you're not a WHM and have to put out 3600 potency worth of healing to heal the Walking Dead Debuff. Then it's a terrible skill.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]
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  3. 07-31-2019 02:09 AM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Until you're not a WHM and have to put out 3600 potency worth of healing to heal the Walking Dead Debuff. Then it's a terrible skill.
    SCH: Recitation + Excog, double Lustrate
    AST: Lightspeed + Benefic II + oGCD heals

    It's not that hard to deal with, tbh.
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  4. 07-31-2019 02:25 AM #4
    Deceptus
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    SCH: Recitation + Excog, double Lustrate
    Still a dead tank, not enough potency. Your example is only 2320 potency. (1120 for Reci - Excog and 1200 for lustrate).

    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    AST: Lightspeed + Benefic II + oGCD heals
    Still a dead tank, not enough potency.

    You're severely underestimating how much healing 3600 potency is. Also, if you've reached the point the DRK has to use Living Dead, you're probably short a few CD's.

    Point is, WHM presses one CD to negate the Walking Dead Debuff, the other two have to burn every CD they have to not have enough heals to remove the debuff.
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    Last edited by Deceptus; 07-31-2019 at 02:32 AM.
    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]
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  5. 07-31-2019 05:04 AM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    SCH: Recitation + Excog, double Lustrate
    AST: Lightspeed + Benefic II + oGCD heals

    It's not that hard to deal with, tbh.
    That's a horrible argument, you shouldn't have to waste so much resources to prevent an instadeath, its stupid for no reason.
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    Tanks be Like....

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  6. 07-31-2019 06:56 AM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    SCH: Recitation + Excog, double Lustrate
    AST: Lightspeed + Benefic II + oGCD heals

    It's not that hard to deal with, tbh.
    That is not even close to enough and even if that would be the case, that's already way to many resources used.

    Living Dead is just the worst Tank cooldown in the game currently. Especially since HP increased so much compared to healing this addon.
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    Last edited by Alphras; 07-31-2019 at 10:23 PM.
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  7. 07-31-2019 04:56 AM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Launched View Post
    The complaints are ignored because they're not valid. It's a good skill.
    The complaints usually are just that it's the ONLY Invul skill that can kill you and requires a caveat to it's activation.

    Hallowed Ground: Push a button
    SB: Push a button go to 1hp
    Holm: Push a button can't be brought below 1hp
    LD: Push a button, DIE, Get healed back up, can not be brought below 1hp during this time, if healed carry on, if not DIE.

    It's an Invul skill that WANTS you to die which is about as anti tank as it gets.
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