ShB bard has turned me into a ball of rage and depression

[Hanayumi]

I dont really see that much of an issue with bard right now, should be on par with like summoner, tiny bit of raid utility, moderate dps, really main issue I have just the sound thing and that just could just be harder to change unlike potency stuff, im sure that'll get fixed by 5.1.

[Suniva]

*read patch notes*
....
*sigh*
*goes grabs ice cream*

[kajv95]

I dont really see that much of an issue with bard right now, should be on par with like summoner, tiny bit of raid utility, moderate dps, really main issue I have just the sound thing and that just could just be harder to change unlike potency stuff, im sure that'll get fixed by 5.1.

The main problem a fair amount of other saltmains and I have is that the entire job screams "support", from its job identity as a bard in general to the actual lore in the game. It's not reflected in the gameplay at all.
That, and for a lot of us, Apex Arrow feels completely disconnected from the rest of the kit. Oh, and the soul gauge having the same audio cue as Pitch Perfect really, really doesn't help either.

[Hakuohsama]

Not even a Sound change for Apex Arrow.

Seems like SE really wants dancer to be meta.
Thx for making my Job not so much wanted in Raidgroups anymore.

[Aiscence]

Actually Bard is the best choice for ranged to take in a static. Dance damage is lackluster even with the party buffs and mch rdps is really bad (brd is better).
Complaining about them losing their supportive thing can be a solid reason, like apex arrow being a total trash, but saying they arent wanted in raid group is probably way too much XD. Could play machinist and not be wanted in group before X.5 for 3 expansions :^)

[Suniva]

I wanted, at the very least, for a sound change to Apex and the tooltip to better define that the 500 potency is THE MAX dmg. I am hoping that they address brd concerns more in depth in 5.1, but I wanted them to at least give us a little something.

[suplejou]

Switch jobs boo, get away from that negativity

[TcomJ]

https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/29#
https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/29#dpstype=pdps

More and more, we will be left alone next patch....again.

[stanrir]

I think bard is the most fun it has ever been in FF14, but with all they took from it, it went from a job you would see in almost every static to one that isn't even needed anymore. Now they just offer Nature's minne and Battle voice. One is a generic dps buff and the other is a weak healing buff

[TaiyoShikasu]

Should've at least given the job its own Bane. Shadowbite looks cool as Hell, but once you get all the things dotted, they're already dead and whatever's left you might as well use Sidewinder.

And the loss of Refresh hurts so bad when it comes to early progression or I've just been seeing a lot of pure healers.