ShB bard has turned me into a ball of rage and depression

[Rika007]

We will see what we get tomorrow patch 5.05. Pretty sure it will just be brainless damage number.
The songs and improved ability design will have to wait till next expansion as always.

Honestly just reworking Foe's into an oGCD ability without a cast time on 2 minute cooldown that lasts for about 15 seconds would be enough for now. This would let Bard get back it's most iconic ability since 2.0, feel a bit more in the utility area, and also turn a clunky ability into something more natural. If you need two you could revert the buff to Battle Voice and also tune the Bard's numbers to match the uptick in rDPS. This also would let Dancer keep it's time in the limelight as the premier hybrid DPS/Support, because even this buff still wouldn't push Bard anywhere close to DNC's rDPS contribution. Then finally once we role into next expansion you can expand on the BRD's support kit for it's 6.0 iteration, which would be a real nice touch, as the current DPS side of Bard feels really good (Apex Arrow could use some love but the base of the idea works well). So you can expand more on the soul gauge and BRD utility and not mess up a really solid DPS rotation.

[TcomJ]

Honestly just reworking Foe's into an oGCD ability without a cast time on 2 minute cooldown that lasts for about 15 seconds would be enough for now. This would let Bard get back it's most iconic ability since 2.0, feel a bit more in the utility area, and also turn a clunky ability into something more natural. If you need two you could revert the buff to Battle Voice and also tune the Bard's numbers to match the uptick in rDPS. This also would let Dancer keep it's time in the limelight as the premier hybrid DPS/Support, because even this buff still wouldn't push Bard anywhere close to DNC's rDPS contribution. Then finally once we role into next expansion you can expand on the BRD's support kit for it's 6.0 iteration, which would be a real nice touch, as the current DPS side of Bard feels really good (Apex Arrow could use some love but the base of the idea works well). So you can expand more on the soul gauge and BRD utility and not mess up a really solid DPS rotation.

Annnnddd, we get nothing.
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...c8cee52472b81a

Not even Soul Gauge/Apex Arrow alarm sound change.....

[kajv95]

Welp guess I'm dropping bard for the time being then, was a fun ride while it lasted guys. From Bowmage to Stormblood to this, the end of an era has come. I'll just go main a class I'm actually enjoying during Shadowbringers.

[TcomJ]

Welp guess I'm dropping bard for the time being then, was a fun ride while it lasted guys. From Bowmage to Stormblood to this, the end of an era has come. I'll just go main a class I'm actually enjoying during Shadowbringers.

https://twitter.com/goldentot/status...95223531016192

LOL

[Hanayumi]

From what devs mentioned, the reason why bards lost their support, isnt so much that they wanted dancer to be the go to "buff" job, it's because they don't want so many buffs to be stacked and cause another meta like nin trick atk did.

[TcomJ]

From what devs mentioned, the reason why bards lost their support, isnt so much that they wanted dancer to be the go to "buff" job, it's because they don't want so many buffs to be stacked and cause another meta like nin trick atk did.

Yah and look at what happen to AST and Bard. We lost all our identities and have no place in raid.

And no stack buffs on one job right? DNC is literally that.

[Connor]

From what devs mentioned, the reason why bards lost their support, isnt so much that they wanted dancer to be the go to "buff" job, it's because they don't want so many buffs to be stacked and cause another meta like nin trick atk did.

I understand that, but there are loads of ways they could have gave Bard some support stuff in exchange that isn’t going to be stacked in that way, even if it’s just something like a Regen song or a song that creates a HP shield.

And in terms of the identity stuff the songs don’t even really need to support the party, they could just be damage or debuffs or whatever for balancing, but they didn’t make any sort of effort to think of fun ways to do this sort of thing and just went ‘lol give them more arrows’. Like Shadowbite, Refulgent and Apex Arrow could have been ‘song of laser beams’ or whatever but kept the exact same effect, and that’s 3 new songs we get to use that are restricted enough that they don’t overtake the archer aesthetics.

[Mezzoforte]

That awkward moment bards feel what it is like to be any class that isn't ninja, bard, or astro in SB and can't handle it.

[Connor]

That awkward moment bards feel what it is like to be any class that isn't ninja, bard, or astro in SB and can't handle it.

When has anyone claimed Bard needs potency buffs or instant raid spots? You’re misunderstanding the argument if you think this is about DPS

[TcomJ]

That awkward moment bards feel what it is like to be any class that isn't ninja, bard, or astro in SB and can't handle it.

I have no idea what's with your people shitting on other people job gameplay when we literally complain on none of yours.

You want damage for yourselves then go ahead. Complaining that some other jobs help yours so you don't have a spot in the party is hilarious.