Summoner 5.05 changes are in

[Taranok]

Egi cooldowns reduced from 10s to 3s, and all instant cast DoT sources (Bio/TD) have the DoT hit faster, probably to smooth over when you can use other abilities immediately after. Woo.

Looks like it's time to give up on summoner, the class is a hot mess right now and not worth the effort of playing the broken, disjointed mess that it is.

[Poppet]

The one problem job other than AST that was needing so much. Got absolutely nothing.

Not a fan. It deserved so much more.

[Exodus-E]

Looks like it's time to give up on summoner, the class is a hot mess right now and not worth the effort of playing the broken, disjointed mess that it is.

Speak for yourself.
Me, I've mained SMN since (nearly) the beginning. Thus, I've been through both the good and the bad up until now.

So I definitely won't give up on it.
If anything, I remain hopeful for whatever Patch 5.1 will bring for it.

[dinnertime]

Yeah, I'll be hopeful they surprise us with positive changes in 5.1 like they did with 4.1 but I guess for now I'll continue playing BLM which I don't doubt will still be a lot better than playing the new SMN even after getting fixes.

Still disappointed that we barely got anything.

[SWB]

Summoner is now the least mobile job in the game and it's really sad to see that now they get nothing to reflect how busy their job is. Everything needs to be perfect to maintain high dps while black mage and red mage are very relaxed, easy, and do just as much or in BLM's case, a LOT more dps for doing very little, while summoner is trapped into a two minute rotation where they have to keep everything flowing.

It's really punishing, and while it's a lot of fun it's pretty depressing to not get any dps gain to reflect the amount of work they have to do.

I dont understand how jobs with less to do are more rewarded, but now it's basically gonna be red mages for progression, and resses, and black mages for speed runs and farming. Summoner doesnt really fit anywhere and it now isn't fair to your team to bring them along just because you like them lore wise, as you're taking up a slot that can be used for a res bot that can sustain as much dps as you, or a black mage that will dominate the charts.

[Aomine1992]

So disappointed with the garbage SMN changes lol like really SE just fixing they apply status? Like okay.....but there are 50 million other issues with this clunky ass 5.0 SMN...

Luckily I had a secondary Incase SMN stilll sucked after the patch lol welp might be doing savage as a MNK XD

[Nyoraii]

Egi cooldowns reduced from 10s to 3s, and all instant cast DoT sources (Bio/TD) have the DoT hit faster, probably to smooth over when you can use other abilities immediately after. Woo.

Looks like it's time to give up on summoner, the class is a hot mess right now and not worth the effort of playing the broken, disjointed mess that it is.

Of all of the changes they could have done, why did they reduce the mobile dot cd? It's not like it really matters, you're trading Ifrit's 2k dmg for Garuda's 1.8k dmg. WOOOW.

[Aomine1992]

Let’s not forget with RDM MP issue solved and us barely out damaging them...we just are not in a good place. Honestly now that AST is fixed we are taking that spot as worse class, because while NIN just lacks the dmg and being a slave to TA.

Our core class is destroyed, we aren’t mobile at all besides what the 2 seconds of DWT, our dmg is mediocre compared to the amount of things we have to do, we are still a slave to SE’s 1990 pet AI system. Our dots do not line up well, we have 50miion oGCDs. optimizing SMN is such a chore right now with no gains. This is beyond frustrating we don’t need savage to see these glaring issues. [delete]

This is SB SMN all over again before 4.1

[Yandere-chan]

Well, it's not like these are bad changes. It just would be nice if more changes were to come. Hopefully the proc time on the status effect is fast enough that you can instantly fester after bio hits now. Before you would be punished if you used your ogcd skills too soon after casting it. If there is still a delay to keep you from instantly casting post changes, she will be disappointed though. Hopefully more changes will come down the pipe line though.

[dinnertime]

This is SB SMN all over again before 4.1

At least 4.0 SMN was actually so busted that it was top DPS and that made up for it. 5.0 SMN is just the absolute worst.