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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    I’m sorry. I stopped reading here.

    Go home, OP. You’re drunk.
    energy drain will give like 1k dps for sch and will be on SAME level like WHM

    Quote Originally Posted by IttyBitty View Post
    WHM feels kinda clunky right now, but it's pretty dang strong and certainly in a better place than it was late HW or....all of SB.
    2 more patches like this and we will got HW and SB history repeat again ...

    MARK MY WORDS 2 MORE PATCHES AND WHM WILL BE AGAIN UNWANTED CLASS AGAIN
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynia View Post

    energy drain will give like 1k dps for sch and will be on SAME level like WHM
    An increase of 450 potency max per minute = 1000 dps

    Seems legit.
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    Watching forum drama be like

  3. #13
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    You're assuming there will be big SCH/AST buffs and nothing for WHM.
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynia View Post
    MARK MY WORDS 2 MORE PATCHES AND WHM WILL BE AGAIN UNWANTED CLASS AGAIN
    If SE had implemented some of the more questionable suggestions for 5.05 I might have agreed with you. However, SE's changes suggest they're trying to keep the healer's identities intact, for once. Also if AST needs further tuning it will probably be smaller changes than this patch.

    So, look. After the last few years I can understand a lot of pessimism, but right now the evidence doesn't support it.
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    Funniest thing I've read all day. Thanks OP.
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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynia View Post
    energy drain will give like 1k dps for sch and will be on SAME level like WHM
    Yeah, you’re definitely drunk right now. Do go lay down.

    We don’t even know what the potency of Energy Drain will be—if it will remain what it used to be or be less. I highly doubt it will be more. Even still, Aetherflow will still be used for healing. Not all three are going to be dumped on Energy Drain even in the most optimized speedkills.


    As it stands, AST is actually still the healer that looks like it will be behind the other two. Once Eden Savage numbers start coming in, we’ll know for sure where it stands, but it was already ~900 rDPS behind WHM in the EX trials and Eden Normal Mode. And the change to Divination is not going to give it ~900 rDPS, just like the re-addition of Energy Drain isn’t suddenly going to bring SCH up to WHM’s rDPS level. I think you’re really overreacting here.
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    Sage | Astrologian | Dancer

    마지막 날 널 찾아가면
    마지막 밤 기억하길

    Hyomin Park#0055

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    Larek Darkholme
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    The only thing WHM needed in this patch was to not get nerfed.
    All good here.
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    Larek Darkholme @ Ragnarok

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    Asuka Suzuhana
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynia View Post
    5.05 patch:

    - SCH got energy drain back that will give same damage like WHM and make him OP again
    - ASTRO lot of buffs
    - WHM got nothing again

    2 more patches like this and WHM will be again unwanted shit for raids like it was in SB that no1 want this class GJ SE !

    mark my words, soon history will repeat itself like it was in SB

    drop your WHM before it too late and go level SCH or ASTRO if you want keep your raid slot

    what WHM got now ?
    - dmg ? nope
    - utility nope
    - barrier ? LOL ...
    - healing ? lol
    - oh yeah we have useless holy for raids ...

    YES IM ANGRY I HAVE TO DROP AGAIN MY FAV HEALER CAUSE OF SCHOLARS WHINING and play SCH cause I hate astro over life !!

    GJ SE from angry WHM player ...


    and ppls think that WHM is already OP ...

    Don't be jealous WHM, you enjoy it during SB.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Yeah, you’re definitely drunk right now. Do go lay down.

    We don’t even know what the potency of Energy Drain will be—if it will remain what it used to be or be less. I highly doubt it will be more. Even still, Aetherflow will still be used for healing. Not all three are going to be dumped on Energy Drain even in the most optimized speedkills.


    As it stands, AST is actually still the healer that looks like it will be behind the other two. Once Eden Savage numbers start coming in, we’ll know for sure where it stands, but it was already ~900 rDPS behind WHM in the EX trials and Eden Normal Mode. And the change to Divination is not going to give it ~900 rDPS, just like the re-addition of Energy Drain isn’t suddenly going to bring SCH up to WHM’s rDPS level. I think you’re really overreacting here.
    I will give you link to this thread on 5,2 when WHM will be shit again, im leaving this sunken ship before is too late

    go more QQ how weak SCH and how OP WHM is come on WHM need more nerfs, dmg too good healing too good HOLY too op ... that what I read on forums there days ...
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  10. #20
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    Yesunova Hotgo
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    I don’t recall reading on the forums about bringing WHM down. I know, I am a salty healer reading the forums a lot. Their desire was to have WHM brought up rather than SCH and AST brought down. WHM is well balanced. There are other glowing issues definitely and is the case for all healers, WHM has had their glowing issues longer and SE not really addressing them, but they have no made us equal in dissatisfaction in this respect. We should really kinda be united in that point.
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