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    Last night, ALL Roulettes except Trials had "Healer In Need"!

    NOW can we admit that there is a healer shortage?

    Multiple articles have been written about it. The issue is why...

    It is not due to a lack of popularity for FFXIV as zones are quite active! And it is not because of 2 new jobs because not everybody who heals would suddenly do GNB or DNC. That is not realistic.


    I believe there are 3 healer-specific issues:

    1) AST 5.0 changes have made it far too similar to WHM. So if you don't enjoy one, it is likely that there are now 2 jobs that you will have no interest in playing.

    2) SCH 5.0 changes have resulted in many of our hardcore healers getting bored and trying a different job in search of more complexity. Simplifying SCH and removing options is the opposite of what a down-and-dirty SCH player would want.

    3) WHM 5.0 seems fine at max level. Rather, it is feeling the awkwardness that comes from the new 10,000 MP limit at lower levels. It is a terrible strategy to have a job feel horrible for the first 50-60 levels. I used to be able to throw out heals freely as a WHM in all levels of content but those days are over! Level 50 and under means no Thin Air and no Assize. Dungeons are fine but any Trials or Raid Content involve lots of doing nothing as healing on this pure healer will mean that I go out-of-mana quite quickly. I want to be a fountain of love and free healing. But 5.0 means I am stingy as hell as a few consecutive heals and 1 rez means certain death as I will have no mana left. The other healer is usually a WHM as well and they often run out of mana within the first minute. Of course, I am not a skilled WHM and I would have less issues once I git gud.


    Regardless, this issue is much deeper than my skills and lack thereof. The issue is that SE has made Healer Roles exceptionally unattractive in an effort to streamline and there is a ripple effect. Ripple #1 is that I just went back to SMN and happily get to "heal" via Physick and rezzing while freely spending seemingly endless mana to cast spells. Now there is 1 less Healer queuing up for content.

    My question to everybody: Is there a realistic solution that SE could roll out by the next patch?
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    I don't know what roulettes you're looking at, lately all I've seen is tank for most of them and usually DPS for alliance raid. How long were you looking for? They can fluctuate as people join and stuff.

    By the way, slight tangent: Were you posting about tank shortages from ARR to ShB, or do you just care about healer shortages?
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    The next patch is tomorrow, so we'll see what they do. On the case of scholar, the fixes are pretty easy, tbh, just give them back the arcanist abilities they lost. Miasma, energy drain, bane and maybe also give them back miasma II for some aoe. Only other thing I'd want is to be able to cast my fairy abilities from the pet hotbar, if they did those 2 things, I'd be okay with this new scholar, it wouldn't be perfect, but at least it would still feel like scholar.

    And if we cant have ED back because of how it is on summoner now then make fester an ACN ability and give us that instead.
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    Make SCH great again! Seriously though, we just want our class to be fun and engaging again, not OP, is that too much to ask for?

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    I play healer and its about 50/50 between tank in need or healer in need for the 50/60/70 and leveling roulettes
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    I'm only doing scholar for my FC static. While the class can function its no where near as fun or interesting anymore. But this is only until choose a new main class.
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    Hi. Thank you for your responses. I am specifically posting about the healer shortage because of what I saw last night and the rarity of seeing articles about this issue at the same time. I don't play as a Tank, so I don't have knowledge of the ARR tank issue (though I take your word for it.)

    Maybe last night was an anomaly? But I have never seen ALL of the roulettes (except Trials) post a role in need and have it be Healer.

    It would be surprising to see so many Healer complaints in the forum and not have that reflect in the queues.

    Here is an article for you to dissect: https://www.usgamer.net/articles/fin...ortage-problem
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billythepancake View Post
    The next patch is tomorrow, so we'll see what they do. On the case of scholar, the fixes are pretty easy, tbh, just give them back the arcanist abilities they lost. Miasma, energy drain, bane and maybe also give them back miasma II for some aoe. Only other thing I'd want is to be able to cast my fairy abilities from the pet hotbar, if they did those 2 things, I'd be okay with this new scholar, it wouldn't be perfect, but at least it would still feel like scholar.

    And if we cant have ED back because of how it is on summoner now then make fester an ACN ability and give us that instead.
    Honestly, I'd be appeased if they just gave us back ED....even if they need to rename it b/c of the SMN changes. If they give us back that and our Aetherflow reduction trait, I'll be happy. And if they give us back everything they stole from us in the name of 'balance,' I'd be thrilled, but I'm not counting on it.
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    If you make the class boring or unengaging it will increase burn out and people will move on to something considered "fun". The changes are supposed to attract casual new players. But healing at low level dungeons is boring so casuals will choose dps then tanks. The class changes have also impacted player retention for the same reasons casuals and veterans want to play something fun and rewarding.
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    Last edited by Brarry; 07-30-2019 at 03:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by galbsadi View Post
    Honestly, I'd be appeased if they just gave us back ED....even if they need to rename it b/c of the SMN changes. If they give us back that and our Aetherflow reduction trait, I'll be happy. And if they give us back everything they stole from us in the name of 'balance,' I'd be thrilled, but I'm not counting on it.
    ED alone wouldn't be enough to appease me, sadly. I fell in love with SCH in the first place because of its dps rotation, while far from being super complex, it was enough for me, and 1 oGCD won't be enough to return it to that state imo. It definitely needs a dps aetherflow ability, whether that's ED, a carbon copy of ED, fester as I keep suggesting, or some new ability doesnt matter to me, but without a doubt, yes, one is needed.
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    Make SCH great again! Seriously though, we just want our class to be fun and engaging again, not OP, is that too much to ask for?

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    It's not that healing is unattractive but simple fact is there are more DPS and now Tank jobs than healers, and players are leveling up extra jobs they need for things like Savage (perhaps to fill gaps in their statics etc) or just to have more choice. After already maxing out SCH, (which isn't that difficult anyway because of SMN sharing EXP), I'm not far off from maxing WHM and AST but once I've done that I'll focus on other jobs, regardless of whether they are attractive or not. Sure the changes in this expac are very different to what we are used to, but I'll queue up for what I feel like at the time and not because X or Y job is now boring.
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